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The radicalization of U.S. Muslims
NationalPost online ^ | Nov 17,2001 | Marina Jiménez

Posted on 11/17/2001 6:35:43 PM PST by rebdov

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To: SmartBlonde
Franklin Graham IS right, that's why he's being denounced! Can't have Americans knw too much about the enemy within! We might turn on them! We might elect people like Representative Cooksey to the US Senate!
21 posted on 11/17/2001 10:53:19 PM PST by onyx
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To: Travis McGee; Gracey; veronica; American Preservative; dennisw; dubyaismypresident; StoneColdGOP...
BUMP!
22 posted on 11/17/2001 10:59:12 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: Gracey
AN UNEASY TOLERANCE

One American Muslim's view of how forces of hatred find a home in otherwise beneficent mosques and Islamic centers

by Mustafa Saied
special to MSNBC.com

Oct. 3 — Ever since America was attacked Sept. 11 by suspected Muslim extremists, there has been a remarkable emphasis on displaying tolerance and understanding towards Muslims living and practicing their faith in the United States. As Americans are called to show respect towards Arabs and Muslims in their midst, it is only fair that the American Muslim community take an introspective look at their own action.

THOUGH THERE ARE many sincere and observant Muslims in America, it is also a fact that in mosques, Islamic centers and Muslim student associations in this country that are funded by extremist factions in Saudi Arabia, anti-American sentiments are commonly intertwined with religious teaching.

As a longtime member of the American Muslim community, I have a unique perspective on this. Born in India, I came to the United States on a student visa. Though the adjustment was easy because it had always been my dream to live here, during my college years I became involved with some extremist Muslim groups. I must admit that some of my conversations on campus were quite insensitive and hateful towards the United States and western civilization as a whole.

I left those ideas behind years ago, when I was fortunately convinced by some friends that these extremist teachings are alien to Islam. Now, as an American resident, I feel it is time to call attention to what goes on inside some Islamic organizations in the United States that function as enclaves of extremism.

RIDICULE AND SUSPICION
Anti-Americanism takes many forms, from a general suspicion of all things non-Muslim to the ridicule of American values and culture, to, in the most extreme cases, outright statements of hatred couched in the language of religion.

In some Muslim communities, it is not unusual for non-Islamic religious or cultural observances to be ridiculed. I have attended Friday congregational prayers in the week before Christmas, Halloween or Thanksgiving in which the sermons are marked with sarcastic references to American religious and cultural practices. This strikes me as hypocritical, especially considering that greetings on the Muslim Eid holidays from non-Muslims are received with pride, but members of most mosques are forbidden to acknowledge their neighbors’ celebration of Christmas or return a holiday greeting.

Parents are increasingly encouraged to send their children to Islamic schools because of a rising sentiment in the American Muslim community that the nation’s public schools are not safe, that they teach anti-Islamic subject matter and that their children are better off surrounded by Muslims rather than non-Muslims. I have not known any of these Islamic schools to encourage or practice the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance, so I still fail to see how patriotism is in any way condoned, inculcated or preserved in the minds of our children.

The most extreme manifestation of anti-American sentiment is in the handful of mosques, Islamic centers and student groups that are controlled by forces that display a particularly venomous hatred towards the Western society. The teachings of religious experts — ancient ones, like Ibn Taymiyyah, a Saudi scholar of the 13th and 14th centuries — or recent leaders like Saudi Sheikh Albany or Abdul Wahhab are notable for their harsh rulings and strong words against non-Muslims.

SPORTS IN THE SPOTLIGHT
Much of this anti-American sentiment takes place out of sight, cloaked in language most Americans cannot understand and in communal religious activities that take place outside the mainstream. But sometimes it comes to the surface. A few years ago, for instance, when the media focused on basketball star Mahmoud Abdul Rauf’s refusal to stand during the singing of the national anthem, Rauf, then a player on the Denver Nuggets, received a great deal of public support from the American Muslim community.

It’s hard to say exactly why Rauf’s co-religionists rallied to his cause: was it because a Muslim sports hero caught in a controversy deserved unconditional Muslim support? Or was it that these Muslims — many of whom carry American passports — felt the American national anthem did not deserve respect? In the end, Rauf came to terms with the issue by agreeing to stand, but silently pray, during the playing of the national anthem. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, I wonder how many American Muslims now regret their involvement in this cause.

FLAGS AND PASSPORTS
A prevailing argument among some Muslim critics is that the American flag stands for the various oppressions and injustices of American foreign policy. But if the American flag is problematic for some American Muslims, what does holding an American passport represent? If they feel so strongly about it, shouldn’t these critics be turning in their passports?

Muslims living in this country and enjoying its freedoms should stop tolerating hate-filled speeches against the West in its centers and houses of worship. Now is the time to discourage anti-social elements within the Islamic centers and mosques. It is not enough for people to simply say that they do not agree with extremist rhetoric. Individuals have a responsibility to voice their concerns and put the pressure on the community to stop tolerating it.

And, if it comes to this, Muslims of good will should be ready to report extremists in their midst to the proper authorities, if they do not tone down their rhetoric — no matter how pious these extremists may claim to be. We cannot let the brotherhood of religion outweigh the security of our country and the responsibilities we have as American citizens.

Introspection is never really painless. The time has come to step up.

Mustafa Saied wrote this commentary for MSNBC.com

23 posted on 11/17/2001 11:17:04 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Travis McGee
A free American cannot survive for long with a deadly virus inside trying to kill her.

The immediate question is if Free Republic can survive the diatribes of the ISLAMIC apologists on Free Republic: Damian5 apologist for Islamicism

24 posted on 11/17/2001 11:29:32 PM PST by Lent
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To: Gracey
bttt
25 posted on 11/18/2001 12:08:57 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Gracey
Would you happen to have a source url for this well written article?
26 posted on 11/18/2001 6:18:08 AM PST by Aaron_A
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To: Lent
I find that it is the libertarians here who have become the moslem apologists. During the course of the war, the libertarians have revealed their true stripes. Many are anti-American scum.
27 posted on 11/18/2001 6:24:05 AM PST by Robert-J
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To: rebdov
Those who do not belong to this Muslim community will be prosecuted for trespassing.

And this is in the US? Americans getting arrested for being on Muslim territory?

28 posted on 11/18/2001 7:24:06 AM PST by FITZ
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To: SmartBlonde
Based on this article, Franklin Graham was right.

I think he spent time in Africa and saw first hand what Muslims are doing there and he knows they'll bring it here too. I used to know a Nigerian guy who said pretty much the same thing or worse because of what the Muslims were doing to his country, and now it's worse because they've imposed Islamic law on everyone and are burning the churches and killing Christians and other non-Muslims.

29 posted on 11/18/2001 7:27:35 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Yeah, occupied territories. Imagine a Church or a Synagogue with that warning? Peaceful religion being welcomed in the White House. We should be genuinely alarmed.
30 posted on 11/18/2001 10:05:40 AM PST by rebdov
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To: rebdov
The radicalization of U.S. Muslims

In a sane world, should equal DEPORTATION/REPATRIATION for as many of them as possible.

Look at the landscape of Afghanistan.
As sorry as I SINCERELY feel for the innocent Afghanis...it looks no different
to me than the "bug planets" of "Starship Troopers".

If Muslim radicals of the United States detest this free, open country...
THEY DON'T BELONG HERE!!!

Give them a FREE, ONE-WAY ticket back to the sort of place they apparently like better.
The arid, dessicated, LIFELESS deserts of their own homelands.

Surely they will be MUCH happier here.

I can think of no more pressing humanitarian mission for the USA...except for feeding starving people.

And as soon as we get these B-TCHING Muslims out of our midst, the more
efficiently we can accomplish the mission of helping the truely hungry and destitute.

Anyone who disagrees...feel free to flame away if it makes you feel good.
31 posted on 11/18/2001 10:13:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
Round them up. Ship them out. The enemy within.
32 posted on 11/18/2001 10:34:05 AM PST by paul51
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To: Aaron_A
I found at MSNBC.com on Oct. 3. Will check their archives and see if I can find again. IMO, his letter should be on every statioin and newspaper. He put his life on the line, IMO.
33 posted on 11/18/2001 10:46:05 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Aaron_A
Here it is. I hope it works. at MSNBC.com, I plugged in the author's name and this popped up:

An Uneasy Tolerance

34 posted on 11/18/2001 10:49:57 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Robert-J
I find that it is the libertarians here who have become the moslem apologists.

Yep, you can thank Harry Browne for that. He's the biggest antiwar activist right now. Many of my Austin Libertarian friends are out there marching with the AntiWar Socialists these day. They're an embarrassment.

They're reasoning is that WAR tends to take liberties away from citizens.

35 posted on 11/18/2001 11:03:33 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Travis McGee
Two of the more than 1,000 people arrested in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks lived in an apartment building around the corner from the Mosque of Peace, and are said to have worshipped here.

Over a loud-speaker, we hear Sheikh Mohammed, the mosque's Egyptian-born imam, call for a show of loyalty -- but not to the United States.

What we have in America is a cesspool of evil contamination. A nest of would be terrorists to attack us within our country. This article is terribly disturbing. If measures aren't taken to stop this hatred, chances are we'll be having more terrorist attacks. The ultimate goal of the Islamics is power and total control of America and the world.

36 posted on 11/18/2001 11:26:39 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: rebdov
And even today, our own White House is hosting a Muslim prayer service. This makes my skin crawl! Am I alone? Is our president really so naive as to believe that Islam is a "peaceful" religion as he has so often said, or is he just playing to the public side of of the Muslim community? Surely he has intelligence that has informed him otherwise.
37 posted on 11/18/2001 11:28:44 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: paul51
Round them up. Ship them out. The enemy within.

I work (and have worked) with a fair number of Muslims.
Mostly foreign-born and immigrated from places like Bangladesh, Pakistan,
and the Emirates.

I (and my brother and a cousin who also have had the same experience) have gotten along
famously with these folks. Probably because we come from a conservative, no-illicit drugs,
nearly no alcohol, and BORING moderate lifestyles from our Christian indoctrination.

BUT, since 9-11, the level of equivocation about the virtue of events in NYC and the Pentagon
have, VERY SADLY, led me to see an IRRECONCILABLE difference of opinion.
Even with a LOT of "moderate, mainstream, peaceful Muslim" thought and feeling.

Now I see way too many "peaceful" Muslims as part of the current "Muslim Bund",
a fifth column in the same style as Nazi sympathizers bent on altering the thought
process, action and culture of this country.

My feeling, in my rather large belly?
Politely tell them that if they truly feel this way, it's time for them to go home.
Before they follow their philosophy to the NATURAL and EVENTUAL END: imposing Sharia
law on as many of their neighbors as possible...just like the Taliban did in Afghanistan.

Hopefully things WON'T come to this sort of impasse.
Maybe they will watch the television coverage from Kabul, see all the faithful Muslim,
liberated from the extremism of the Taliban (Sharia) and the men laughing as they
cut their beards, women tossing their burqas into the fire with joy and
children daring to laugh in public as they play.

Maybe these images will bring them to their senses and make them decide:
"Side with the Taliban/Al-Quida? What do you think I am..freakin' insane!?"
38 posted on 11/18/2001 11:39:47 AM PST by VOA
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To: rebdov
There are two sorts of Arabs in the U.S. Firstly, there are "Naturalized Citizens". Then there are enemy aliens. All of the enemy aliens should have been deported on 9/12/01.

The naturalized citizens should have undergone a detailed background check, to identify sleepers and moles.

Until this is done, we are in mortal danger.

--Boris

39 posted on 11/18/2001 11:53:35 AM PST by boris
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To: AZ Repub
I often wonder if liberal champians are naive or evil.

Some are both, all are evil(defined as transgressors of the instructions of G'd)
40 posted on 11/18/2001 11:53:52 AM PST by hsszionist
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