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they want them votes
1 posted on 11/17/2001 5:40:18 PM PST by t-shirt
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In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt Give Strongest Support Yet to More Open Borders, Immigration Reform By Mark Stevenson Associated Press Writer Published: Nov 17, 2001

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle and House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt said Saturday that they would forge ahead with immigration reform early next year, including some kind of legal residency for Mexican migrants already living in the United States. Such reforms "are very consistent with fighting against terrorism," Gephardt, D-Mo., told a news conference after meeting with President Vicente Fox during the congressmen's three-day trip to Mexico.

"If you are regularizing status, you are also understanding the people you are dealing with are not terrorists," Gephardt said, noting that those who would benefit are "people who have been in the United States for a long time, paid taxes, obeyed the laws and been very good citizens."

Daschle said discussion on the reforms could be held during the next congressional session early next year. He said legalization would not be equivalent to a broad amnesty, and would require a background check and investigation.

"The opportunity for us to investigate and expel those who ought not be there is something we want to deal with, too," he added.

The two lawmakers also said they were interested in a European Union-style program of public investments and a more open border.

"I think that it ought to be our goal that we have a free pass border at some point in the future," Daschle said.

Daschle's office later said he was not endorsing any particular program, but rather supported having the same freedoms on the Mexican border as those that exist on the Canadian border. Canadians do not need visas to enter the United States, but Mexicans do.

"I think it's unlikely that we will obtain that goal anytime in the short term," Daschle said. "(But) if the United States and Canada have a border like that, we ought to have the opportunity to have that kind of border with Mexico as well."

Fox, facing trouble at home on both economic and political fronts, desperately needs to make some headway on gaining better treatment for Mexican migrants to the United States, a central policy goal of his administration.

Daschle and Gephardt said Mexico's concerns hadn't fallen from the U.S. agenda in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"Our commitment (to bilateral issues) is every bit as strong as what it was on Sept. 10," Daschle said, noting that Congress is expected to vote in the next few days to suspend "for at least one year" an anti-drug certification program that has angered Mexicans.

The certification procedure required the State Department to judge other countries' anti-drug efforts and threatened the loss of financial aid for nations that failed the test.

Mexicans, and many other Latin Americans, considered that an affront to their sovereignty.

2 posted on 11/17/2001 5:45:24 PM PST by t-shirt
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I suggest we close the border while they are still down there and not let them back in.....in the interest of national security.
4 posted on 11/17/2001 5:50:37 PM PST by JD86
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they want them votes

Haven't we been told that they are cultural conservatives who will surely vote Republican?

5 posted on 11/17/2001 5:53:10 PM PST by sarcasm
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In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt give strongest support yet to more open borders, immigration reform

Just seen on Americas Most Wanted how terrorist are entering our Country on our southern border. How many more innocent American lives are going to have to die before Daschle and Gephardt get it?

6 posted on 11/17/2001 5:53:52 PM PST by healey22
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And of course the GOP will use this against Daschle and Gephart in a vicourous PR campaign

I ain't holding my breath
7 posted on 11/17/2001 5:53:55 PM PST by uncbob
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Lock the doors. Put out the No Vacancy sign. Post a note on the Net, "Don`t call us we will call you". There is NO SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. No more room at the inn. Stay in your own d*** country, stay out of mine.
11 posted on 11/17/2001 6:00:11 PM PST by vladog
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Why is this being called "reform"? The word is often taken to imply some sort of improvement, which this could never be.
13 posted on 11/17/2001 6:01:47 PM PST by Temple Drake
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It's not a joke. California and Mexican politicians have been campaigning across the boarders for the past five years. Fresno has regular campaign rallies, including local media coverage, for Mexican politicians.
22 posted on 11/17/2001 6:14:55 PM PST by Amerigomag
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"I think that it ought to be our goal that we have a free pass border at some point in the future," Daschle said.

Hey Dashole,we've already got that!

33 posted on 11/17/2001 6:24:48 PM PST by mdittmar
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Dash-hole and little DICK Gephard don't give a SHIITE MUSLIM about the Mexicans. DICK was one who voted against free trade, I believe, and for the continued exploitation of the Mexican worker. No, DICK and lil' Tommy...you're just shilling for votes.

Fortunately, G.W. has your number and will clean your clocks in 2K+2 and 2K+4.

47 posted on 11/17/2001 6:40:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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Of course Dickie and Tommy will also say since this Afghanistan thing is coming to a head,that we should let by- gones be by- gones and open the door to all the muslums again.As we all know,if we'll just be nice to them,they'll abandon their terrorist ways,right?
107 posted on 11/17/2001 7:27:10 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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they want them votes

And they would sell out their kids and grand kids to get votes. If American is to survive long term, ruthless politicans like like Daschle and Gephardt have to be voted out of office.

108 posted on 11/17/2001 7:29:11 PM PST by WRhine
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"Such reforms "are very consistent with fighting against terrorism," Gephardt, D-Mo., told a news conference after meeting with President Vicente Fox during the congressmen's three-day trip to Mexico. "

We have unlimited and restricted immigration flowing across our borders, and the dems want reforms now to legalize the whole thing. And this is supposed to fight terrorism? Dems are the most out-of-touch idiots that I have ever seen.

122 posted on 11/17/2001 8:07:37 PM PST by Don Myers
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there's still a fox in the bush!
123 posted on 11/17/2001 8:09:25 PM PST by rockfish59
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U.S. Selective Service SystemEvading the U.S. Selective Service System: All male U.S. citizens and all male non-citizens including all illegal alien males in the U.S. who are 18 through 25 must register with the Selective Service Administration (Draft Board) upon entry into the United States. If you do not register, you can be prosecuted for a felony and fined up to $250,000 and/or be put in jail for up to five years and/or deported. The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (I&NS) makes registration with the Selective Service a condition for U.S. citizenship if you first arrived in the U.S. before your 26th birthday. See the Selective Service System chart of all male persons who must register.
151 posted on 11/17/2001 9:58:44 PM PST by Z-28
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What? Are these guys nuts?? Or could it be that tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber fear that the popularity of the president means they will have to take extraordinary measures to increase the pool of ignorant and illiterate and non-English speaking DemonRat voters.
161 posted on 11/17/2001 10:33:59 PM PST by sweetliberty
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bump
195 posted on 11/18/2001 3:50:56 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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