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In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt give strongest support yet to more open borders, immigration reform
Associated Press ^ | 11/17/2001 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/17/2001 5:40:18 PM PST by t-shirt

WIRE: 11/17/2001 8:49 pm ET

In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt give strongest support yet to more open borders, immigration reform

The Associated Press

MEXICO CITY (AP) Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle and House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt said Saturday that they would forge ahead with immigration reform early next year, including some kind of legal residency for Mexican migrants already living in the United States. Such reforms "are very consistent with fighting against terrorism," Gephardt, D-Mo., told a news conference after meeting with President Vicente Fox during the congressmen's three-day trip to Mexico.

"If you are regularizing status, you are also understanding the people you are dealing with are not terrorists," Gephardt said, noting that those who would benefit are "people who have been in the United States for a long time, paid taxes, obeyed the laws and been very good citizens."

Daschle said discussion on the reforms could be held during the next congressional session early next year. He said legalization would not be equivalent to a broad amnesty, and would require a background check and investigation.

"The opportunity for us to investigate and expel those who ought not be there is something we want to deal with, too," he added.

The two lawmakers also said they were interested in a European Union-style program of public investments and a more open border.

"I think that it ought to be our goal that we have a free pass border at some point in the future," Daschle said.

Daschle's office later said he was not endorsing any particular program, but rather supported having the same freedoms on the Mexican border as those that exist on the Canadian border. Canadians do not need visas to enter the United States, but Mexicans do.

"I think it's unlikely that we will obtain that goal anytime in the short term," Daschle said. "(But) if the United States and Canada have a border like that, we ought to have the opportunity to have that kind of border with Mexico as well."

Fox, facing trouble at home on both economic and political fronts, desperately needs to make some headway on gaining better treatment for Mexican migrants to the United States, a central policy goal of his administration.

Daschle and Gephardt said Mexico's concerns hadn't fallen from the U.S. agenda in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"Our commitment (to bilateral issues) is every bit as strong as what it was on Sept. 10," Daschle said, noting that Congress is expected to vote in the next few days to suspend "for at least one year" an anti-drug certification program that has angered Mexicans.

The certification procedure required the State Department to judge other countries' anti-drug efforts and threatened the loss of financial aid for nations that failed the test.

Mexicans, and many other Latin Americans, considered that an affront to their sovereignty.


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To: JD86
people that have different requirements for white, english-speakers and latinos who speak spanish are making it a race issue.

free republic is famous for that.

while i'd agree that legality would be preferable, sadly, both parties, democrat and republican, have allowed the defacto immigration policy to build.

the need for immigration is due to the baby boomer generation and successive generations that have chosen not to have children. the u.s. birth rate dropped in the 1960s.

by the late 1970s, the u.s. birth rate fell to 1.8 or so, where 2.0 is replacement of two adults.

it was in the 1980s and 90s that illegal immigration grew as a result.

the american economy requires a slightly higher-than-replacement birth rate to function.

now, the birth rate has risen to 2.2 or so.

why blame other people for our choice not to have children?

41 posted on 11/17/2001 6:35:38 PM PST by ken21
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To: JD86
You are trying to make it a race issue.

Ken21 always plays the race card on every thread of this sort. If you disagree with him, you're a racist. He ignores the real issues of unlimited illegal immigration, then plays the race card.

42 posted on 11/17/2001 6:35:50 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: JD86
there are whites that work under the table and don't pay taxes. so why do you single out mexicans?

isn't that racism?

44 posted on 11/17/2001 6:37:21 PM PST by ken21
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To: nomasmojarras
it's plainly obvious that the richer country is going to spend more than the poorer country.
45 posted on 11/17/2001 6:39:32 PM PST by ken21
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To: riley1992
ping
46 posted on 11/17/2001 6:39:59 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: t-shirt
Dash-hole and little DICK Gephard don't give a SHIITE MUSLIM about the Mexicans. DICK was one who voted against free trade, I believe, and for the continued exploitation of the Mexican worker. No, DICK and lil' Tommy...you're just shilling for votes.

Fortunately, G.W. has your number and will clean your clocks in 2K+2 and 2K+4.

47 posted on 11/17/2001 6:40:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: JD86
Most Canadians go back home, Most Mexicans don't.

It's not only Canadians who cross that border; many of the terrorists come in that way. As do many illegal immigrants from European and Asian countries.

48 posted on 11/17/2001 6:40:17 PM PST by speekinout
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To: ken21
Since when are Mexicans or Hispanics a race?
50 posted on 11/17/2001 6:41:16 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: ken21
people that have different requirements for white, english-speakers and latinos who speak spanish are making it a race issue.

the reason I brought up the language is because it keeps people from assimilating....and the Latinos I have met make it an issue. You yourself think I am racist because I think people who immigrate should learn English. Why? When my great-grandfather immigrated from Germany, he learned English. Why should Latinos not? The US speaks English....if they want to be accepted here, they should learn to do the same. It is not our job to adapt to new arrivals.

51 posted on 11/17/2001 6:41:48 PM PST by JD86
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To: janetgreen
when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 immigrants to be deported...that's racism.
52 posted on 11/17/2001 6:42:08 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
the need for immigration

The premise that is at the heart of argument. Many would argue that that time has long past.

53 posted on 11/17/2001 6:42:10 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: nomasmojarras
if you read the replies above, you'd see that the united states wants the births in this country. as i said above, the u.s. birth rate in the 1970s fell below replacement.
54 posted on 11/17/2001 6:44:40 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 immigrants to be deported...that's racism.

Correction:

when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 illegal immigrants to be deported...that's not racism.

55 posted on 11/17/2001 6:44:53 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: nomasmojarras
there are millions of cross-overs a day.

and, yes, mexican nationals do buy in san diego. why do mexicans buy in san diego? because the prices on some items are cheaper; the same reason that americans go to mexico.

also, preferences.

57 posted on 11/17/2001 6:47:15 PM PST by ken21
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To: JD86
i've met a lot of illegal canadians, south africans, aussies, irish, english, etc here in socal. Okay, and didn't they have to have a visa to get in? Why should Mexicans not have to have a visa?

People from most European countries don't need visas to come here. Neither do Canadians, Aussies or Kiwis. I don't know what your criteria for "illegal" is, but most likely few of those people are really illegal.
Most Africans can get here on special classes of visas. Mexicans and So. Americans have the hardest time being admitted.

58 posted on 11/17/2001 6:47:36 PM PST by speekinout
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To: ken21
If there's 8,300,000 ILLEGALS here, they SHOULD be deported. Then they can apply legally. There's many of us who are tired of supporting them. What don't you understand about the word ILLEGAL?
60 posted on 11/17/2001 6:47:37 PM PST by janetgreen
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