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In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt give strongest support yet to more open borders, immigration reform
Associated Press ^
| 11/17/2001
| Associated Press
Posted on 11/17/2001 5:40:18 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: JD86
people that have different requirements for white, english-speakers and latinos who speak spanish are making it a race issue.
free republic is famous for that.
while i'd agree that legality would be preferable, sadly, both parties, democrat and republican, have allowed the defacto immigration policy to build.
the need for immigration is due to the baby boomer generation and successive generations that have chosen not to have children. the u.s. birth rate dropped in the 1960s.
by the late 1970s, the u.s. birth rate fell to 1.8 or so, where 2.0 is replacement of two adults.
it was in the 1980s and 90s that illegal immigration grew as a result.
the american economy requires a slightly higher-than-replacement birth rate to function.
now, the birth rate has risen to 2.2 or so.
why blame other people for our choice not to have children?
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:35:38 PM PST
by
ken21
To: JD86
You are trying to make it a race issue. Ken21 always plays the race card on every thread of this sort. If you disagree with him, you're a racist. He ignores the real issues of unlimited illegal immigration, then plays the race card.
Comment #43 Removed by Moderator
To: JD86
there are whites that work under the table and don't pay taxes. so why do you single out mexicans?
isn't that racism?
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:37:21 PM PST
by
ken21
To: nomasmojarras
it's plainly obvious that the richer country is going to spend more than the poorer country.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:39:32 PM PST
by
ken21
To: riley1992
ping
To: t-shirt
Dash-hole and little DICK Gephard don't give a SHIITE MUSLIM about the Mexicans. DICK was one who voted against free trade, I believe, and for the continued exploitation of the Mexican worker. No, DICK and lil' Tommy...you're just shilling for votes.
Fortunately, G.W. has your number and will clean your clocks in 2K+2 and 2K+4.
To: JD86
Most Canadians go back home, Most Mexicans don't.It's not only Canadians who cross that border; many of the terrorists come in that way. As do many illegal immigrants from European and Asian countries.
Comment #49 Removed by Moderator
To: ken21
Since when are Mexicans or Hispanics a race?
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:41:16 PM PST
by
sarcasm
To: ken21
people that have different requirements for white, english-speakers and latinos who speak spanish are making it a race issue.the reason I brought up the language is because it keeps people from assimilating....and the Latinos I have met make it an issue. You yourself think I am racist because I think people who immigrate should learn English. Why? When my great-grandfather immigrated from Germany, he learned English. Why should Latinos not? The US speaks English....if they want to be accepted here, they should learn to do the same. It is not our job to adapt to new arrivals.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:41:48 PM PST
by
JD86
To: janetgreen
when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 immigrants to be deported...that's racism.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:42:08 PM PST
by
ken21
To: ken21
the need for immigrationThe premise that is at the heart of argument. Many would argue that that time has long past.
To: nomasmojarras
if you read the replies above, you'd see that the united states wants the births in this country. as i said above, the u.s. birth rate in the 1970s fell below replacement.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:44:40 PM PST
by
ken21
To: ken21
when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 immigrants to be deported...that's racism. Correction:
when you and your buds call for 8,300,000 illegal immigrants to be deported...that's not racism.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:44:53 PM PST
by
sarcasm
Comment #56 Removed by Moderator
To: nomasmojarras
there are millions of cross-overs a day.
and, yes, mexican nationals do buy in san diego. why do mexicans buy in san diego? because the prices on some items are cheaper; the same reason that americans go to mexico.
also, preferences.
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posted on
11/17/2001 6:47:15 PM PST
by
ken21
To: JD86
i've met a lot of illegal canadians, south africans, aussies, irish, english, etc here in socal. Okay, and didn't they have to have a visa to get in? Why should Mexicans not have to have a visa?People from most European countries don't need visas to come here. Neither do Canadians, Aussies or Kiwis. I don't know what your criteria for "illegal" is, but most likely few of those people are really illegal.
Most Africans can get here on special classes of visas. Mexicans and So. Americans have the hardest time being admitted.
Comment #59 Removed by Moderator
To: ken21
If there's 8,300,000 ILLEGALS here, they SHOULD be deported. Then they can apply legally. There's many of us who are tired of supporting them. What don't you understand about the word ILLEGAL?
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