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[Defender2]

As Usual another espusal of HOT AIR from a BlowHard(Buchanan)!!!!

[CubicleGuy]

I think Buchanan is dead-on right on this thing: the Arab coalition is going to fall apart real fast if Bush decides to go chasing after Saddam, because then the jig will be up. Bush will have served notice that any one of them could be next on the list after Saddam, or that's how they'll see it. And they'll all say, "we're done now, that's as far as we'll go". And unless Bush wants to endanger the oil supply, he'll go along to get along.

[danmar]

...what a blowhard, he is such a sore looser is not even funny anymore. This guy is worst than Gore, for Christ sake! Gosh, I wish he would fade away and stay there for ever.
Get a life PJB!...and I used to like this guy's ideas sometime ago...

[PRND21]

For Bush, it has been a good war...
...His role has been one any leader would have relished.

Pat is delusional.

[Jim Robinson]

"Why the War Party may fail; The Death of the West; How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization."

Danny Boy

Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow
Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow
'Tis I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.

And if you come, when all the flowers are dying
And I am dead, as dead I well may be
You'll come and find the place where I am lying
And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me.
And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me
And all my dreams will warm and sweeter be
If you'll not fail to tell me that you love me
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

"Bush should enjoy his triumph. Difficult days lie ahead."

OB, The best bottom line out there. Remember the senior Bush after his war win. Peace and love, George.

[Moderates R Swill]

Blair appeals to Bush: don't bomb Iraq
11-08-2001; Independent;
Author: Andrew Grice and Rupert Cornwell in Washington

TONY BLAIR has urged President George Bush to throw the full weight of the United States behind a new push for peace in the Middle East.

Over dinner at the White House last night, the Prime Minister warned that Arab and Muslim countries would not fully support the war on terrorism unless they were convinced America and its allies were committed to a long-term solution in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

Mr Blair is also understood to have appealed to President Bush not to widen the bombing campaign to Iraq. British ministers are worried there is pressure coming from hardliners such as Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, and Richard Perle, anadviser, to extend strikes to Iraq.

[Cold Heat]

Buchanon is trotting out his isolationist rant again. If something can be done to send a major message to all these Osama want-to- be insurgent bastards, then I am all for it!

Let's Roll!

[walden]

"this time it will take more than six months to build up the necessary forces in the Gulf. And, unlike Afghanistan, there will be no Northern Alliance to do the fighting. All the ground troops will be Americans. "

This absolutely proves to me that Buchanan has NO IDEA what he is talking about. 1) This war would be nothing like the last one 2) All tyrannical governments have local insurgent populations, Iraq has more than most 3) don't look for a hundred thousand troops and masses of hardware, this war will be quiet & behind the scenes and 4) Saddam WILL GO before the end of Bush's first term (too dangerous to let him stay, and no President ever has a guarantee of a second term). My predictions.

[mbb bill]

Americans have lost the country!!

[Moby Grape]

More HOT AIR from someone who can't get 1% of the vote...Pat is a HAS BEEN and his head-in-the-sand view of the world is DANGEROUS....fortunately, the ONLY people who listen to him are a few thrid party and Libertarian cultist.

[mountaineer]

Isn't it amazing that the U.S. has a plethora, nay, a glut of political pundits and "experts," but a shortage of fast-food workers?

[annalex]

Buchanan is right that the hard part begins now, but he misunderstands this war.

This war is not on any particular country, but on the Al Qaeda network and its future heirs. If such are found in Iraq, we make war on Iraq; if not, we don't.

We would be justified to make war on terrorits organizations unrelated to the Twin Towers massacre: Hesbollah and Hamas, but not being in a direct conflict with them we should probably let Israel do it, unless Hesbollah or Hamas attack us or merge with Al Qaeda.

[exmarine]

Buchanan is right about the coming struggle between hawks and doves. Does the U.S. have the juevos to go it alone, or do we need our pathetic coalition and its global army to help us?

Doesn't the Constitution mandate that Bush protect U.S. citizens regardless of what other nations say or do? In this case, the only defense is a good offense (this is where I part company with Buchanan). Buchanan is the other extreme from Bush the globalist - Buchanan is an isolationist.

My prediction: After Afghanistan we will not do anything other than rattle the saber. Our leaders do not have the moral courage to do what has to be done to protect American citizens.

[ImpBill]

"Thus far, leadership is confined to the chattering classes – radio and TV talking heads, think-tank scribblers, editorialists at The Wall Street Journal and The Weekly Standard, National Review and The New Republic, and columnists on the op-ed pages of the Washington and New York papers."

Gee PJ, what "chattering class" do you fit into these days. Not many radio and TV shows are clamoring for your "talking head" these days. I could be wrong but I doubt if any of the "think tanks" are pinning away from your erudite philosophies. Have you had many calls from the editors of the WSJ, New Republic Weekly Standard, or National Review lately? And to be honest I don't read many op-ed's in the Washington or New York papers but I doubt if your words are finding their way onto their pages either.

Gee, I guess WND is the only place for 3 time loser, chattering class types to end up these days.

Take heart however Pat, 3 or 4 of your minions here on FR will come to your support, so not all your wind will be wasted.

[dead]

I don't know why everybody is jumping all over Pat for this analysis. I bit of knee-jerk, I assume.

It was a fair, if pedestrian, summation of the options ahead for Bush.

The one thing I think Pat overlooked is the very real possibility that Saddam, who is an idiot, will make some play that forces Bush's hand (and provides him the justification he needs to bring the war machine down on Iraq).

There was news yesterday that Saddam is massing troops, possibly planning an assault on the Kurds. Saddam is nutty, and will not sit there worrying about an American attack for too long. He's jumpy and eager to get started.

[Torie]

Your buddy Pat now seems to be carrying Saddam's water and the water of the Palestinian terrorists. There is depths apparently to which this man cannot sink.

[exnavy]

Hey, Pat, sit down and shut up. Your a has been.

[Penny1]

For Bush, it has been a good war that has firmly rooted his presidency in the hearts and minds of Americans. His role has been one any leader would have relished.

This part made me ill...it's hard for me to read beyond it...

As if any decent leader would "relish" something that began with the death of thousands of American citizens....that's just sick...

We must never forget that this "war" began on September 11...not on October 7.

-penny