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To: imperator2
"The destruction of the USA involves internal acts of sabotage. There are probably thousands of Islamic terrorist waiting secretly in ths country for an order to unleash their evil."

You are correct.

--Boris

50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:11 PM PST by boris
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To: boris
Don't forget millions of extremely P-O ed ARMED Americans, if these cowards tried any kind of guerilla action on our soil, they better pray the Armed Forces find them first... they may actually make it to trial that way.
57 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:13 PM PST by WALLACE212
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To: boris
>>"The destruction of the USA involves internal acts of sabotage. There are probably thousands of Islamic terrorist waiting secretly in ths country for an order to unleash their evil."
>You are correct. --Boris

I think this thread is pretty much mis-interpreting this guy's comments. To me, his remarks sound like statements on eschatology -- "end time" beliefs. And, as such, they're not too different from what some Christians (those who see America as "Mystery Babylon") see in Revelation. It's not that America will be destroyed "by" terrorists. But, rather, by God (who may, presumably, "use" terrorists -- but if you read the following chapter, you see there's such a fast and complete destruction predicted for "Mystery Babylon" -- whatever that is -- that's is apparently much more than _just_ terrorism):

Revelation 18

1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
2 With a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."
4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5 for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.
6 Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. Mix her a double portion from her own cup.
7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, `I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'
8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
9 "When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her.
10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry: "`Woe! Woe, O great city, O Babylon, city of power! In one hour your doom has come!'
11 "The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more--
12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble;
13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and bodies and souls of men.
14 "They will say, `The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your riches and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.'
15 The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn
16 and cry out: "`Woe! Woe, O great city, dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet, and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!' "Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off.
18 When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, `Was there ever a city like this great city?'
19 They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out: "`Woe! Woe, O great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour she has been brought to ruin!
20 Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.'"
21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said: "With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.
22 The music of harpists and musicians, flute players and trumpeters, will never be heard in you again. No workman of any trade will ever be found in you again. The sound of a millstone will never be heard in you again.
23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world's great men. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth."

Obviously, this kind of thing can be "interpretted" nine billion different ways. But if you look at a couple of general themes -- 1) Does the description of "Mystery Babylon" apply to America _better_ than it has applied to any country/area/entity throughout all history? 2) Does the _destruction_ sound like "just" a terrorist attack (or series), or something geophysical? -- then I think this chapter gives a modern American a lot to think about.

More to the point, I think if you pray for discernment the Holy Spirit will answer your prayer. THEN this chapter gives a modern American a lot to think about.

Mark W.

69 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:31 PM PST by MarkWar
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