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To: Poohbah
Please avoid putting words in my phrases. I don't recall saying anything about "significant" numbers of Chinese in Mexico. I merely reported the assertion that numbers of Chinese soldiers had been seen with Mexican soldiers at the border--possibly firing at American personnel--from an interesting article or two. I have yet to check it out with my San Diego friends.

I don't know when I'll talk to them on the phone next. Not a raging priority.

Never minimized the challenges the Chinese will face.

I can think of a number of things that will make their efforts easIER. But they are not all that daunted by missions impossible. Their pride etc. convinces them they just need to throw more patience at it or more people at it. Everyone else = barbarians, remember.

I don't have any real need to prove anything. I would like to see some discussion of possibilities have an easier time of it.

YOU are the one blocking off whole classes of sources. You are the one preferring to limit your inputs. You are the one bothered by various types of data. I'm comfortable leaving that as your problem. I consider the diversity of data in life fascinating. The sorts of things that seem to cause you to break out in hives and LOUD SHRIEKS with your word choices (compare to my fonts and colors) have proven more than interesting in my life the last at least 45-50 years. I can understand your perspective without such experiences. I can't deny the truth of my experiences just because I don't know all the therefore what's.

And as a sociologist and a librarian as well as psychologist, I have learned at least a little bit about sorting and sifting data. . . evidently things which you have not learned. . . no big deal . . . I consider your perspective a variation on tunnel vision. You seem to consider my perspective as allowing anything claiming to be truth to be accepted as truth. Your impressions of my sifting and sorting criteria etc. seem to be wholesale NONSENSE.

I don't know how many of the more plausible docs I've read are unalterable predictions and how many are warnings to pray that such not happen at all or not as severely. I'm convinced that China will invade at some point for some few years. I believe the length of time and the severity of their reign will depend on the Christians responsible during those times and to some degree the behavior of the U.S. citizens as a whole as well as to some degree to the ruthlessness and cruelty of the Chinese overlords.

But I've been thinking, One could "MERELY" take the Biblical predictions and hypothesize roughly the outline so many hundreds and hundreds of prophecies ancient and current have been giving us. One doesn't really need thousands of pages to arrive at pretty similar conclusions. I do find it fascinating when thousands of pages, personal stories etc. add up to essentially the same thing.

Of course, one is reasonably free to stick one's head in the sand and pretend all that is lunacy. The Roman church tried to do that with certain kinds of annoyingly uncomfortable data eons ago. A lot of churches and spiritual leaders seem prone to doing something similar in our era. Othes are screaming warnings for all they're worth--some off the wall and some very conservative.

By the way, I've known Mexico would be invading to reclaim the South West for more than 33-35 years. I used to know some of the people who knew where some of the arms were stored in waiting. . . . BUT MORE convincing to me was what I felt in my bones, in my spirit.

Many of the documents I've read are merely confirmation of things I've felt for decades. I don't usually have many dreams or visions. I do have impressions of things that kind of wander into my awareness as a new "fact" that I'd not been aware of before. When the criteria of such impressions reach a certain threshhold, the probability goes up rather high.

But you need not believe a bit of it. You can continue whistling Dixie or Tiajuana Trot or whatever lights your fire. . . Far be it from me to give a shred of advance warning to someone who is not the least bit interested or open to it.

129 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:54 PM PST by Quix
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To: Quix
Yeah, I tend to block off whole classes of input on a lot of subjects. For example, I tend to not bother asking post-modernist deconstructionism professors for advice on optimizing the performance of an Apache web server in conjunction with a Sidewinder firewall; that's because I'd probably be more likely to get usable information from an Apache sysadmin who maintains his server behind a Sidewindr firewall. Likewise, I don't bother listening to fruitcake theories on warfare from people who spout all kinds of gibberish and gratutious insult, and can't be bothered to supply such tedious things as EVIDENCE, and who admit that they are ignorant about what armies do and how they do it.
132 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:02 PM PST by Poohbah
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