Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: NYCVirago
The article says what was well-known among those who knew Judge -- that he was gay.

So now you're claiming to know Father Judge better than those who knew him most - the firefighters? Sorry but that doesn't fly. First of all no one has any proof that he lacked sexual attraction to women and lusted after men (that in itself would be a pretty disrespectful charge). Second of all, if he had indeed been a homosexual and gave up the lifestyle for a life of celibacy and dedication to moral values - guess what? ... that's known as 'ex-gay'. Some in the pro-homosexual camp will use the most twisted logic to demand that a celibate priest who honors his vowes is known after death (and he can't defend his reputation) as a homosexual. I never thought I would see the day that gay activists would stoop that low.

92 posted on 11/13/2001 11:45:23 PM PST by RobertBauman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies ]


To: RobertBauman
It looks like you didn't even bother to read the New York magazine article, either.
102 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:48 PM PST by NYCVirago
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies ]

To: RobertBauman
So now you're claiming to know Father Judge better than those who knew him most - the firefighters? Sorry but that doesn't fly. First of all no one has any proof that he lacked sexual attraction to women and lusted after men (that in itself would be a pretty disrespectful charge). Second of all, if he had indeed been a homosexual and gave up the lifestyle for a life of celibacy and dedication to moral values - guess what? ... that's known as 'ex-gay'. Some in the pro-homosexual camp will use the most twisted logic to demand that a celibate priest who honors his vowes is known after death (and he can't defend his reputation) as a homosexual. I never thought I would see the day that gay activists would stoop that low.

Why is it so important in your eyes that Father Judge not have been gay? It seems it's for the same reason that the anti-gay folks here refuse to believe that Mark Bingham did anything to overtake the hijackers on September 11. It's easier to hate gays if they can all be shown to be people who live completely immoral, evil lives. But Judge and Bingham were heroes, and they shatter the sterotypes of gays being cowardly and effeminate. For the same reason Andrew Sullivan has pointed out Judge's bravery -- to show that these sterotypes are false -- you say that Judge *isn't* gay, because otherwise you would have to admit that a homosexual man could be brave, too.

As for Judge's sexuality, nobody is suggesting that he had any gay affairs as a priest. By all accounts, he stuck to his vow of celibacy. But that doesn't make him "ex-gay" anymore than calling a heterosexual priest, or even a guy without a girlfriend, "ex-straight"!

104 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:53 PM PST by NYCVirago
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson