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NO SIGNS OF ENGINE FAILURE!
FOX News

Posted on 11/13/2001 1:05:28 PM PST by X-Servative

At the NTSB press conference, they just stated that both engines appear to be intact and that there are no signs of engine failure, according to George Black, NTSB Boardmember.


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KEYWORDS: flight587
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To: irish_lad
After hearing that the plane had a light inspection the night before, my first thought was sabotage. Hope the maintenance crew has been interviewed carefully.
61 posted on 11/13/2001 1:19:52 PM PST by Peach
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
sabotage

is more likely...

62 posted on 11/13/2001 1:20:29 PM PST by atafak
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To: rit
The tail section fell in the water, yet the engines fell on land. Which would you suppose came off the plane first. I don't know the aerodynamics of a falling aircraft engine, but it sounds like the tail section came off first.
64 posted on 11/13/2001 1:20:44 PM PST by Robear
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To: Jennifer in Florida
They are saying the voice recorder has the pilots stating there was an "air frame rattle." Somebody clue me in to what this is.

The aircraft structure is called an 'airframe' while the motor, transmission, etc is called the 'power plant'. So the pilots are referring to a vibration or unusual noise that eminated from the sheetmetal part of the aircraft. I suppose a stabilizer tearing away from the main body of the aircraft would make quite an unusual noise.

Fly BOEING - we build solid aircraft. Cheaper isn't better.

65 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:07 PM PST by chit*chat
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To: Zordas
....so abdul the mechanic walks by the engine a sticks a couple of stick on automotive wheel weights to to the inside of the turbines....
67 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:19 PM PST by is_is
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To: eno_
I'm listenin', I'm listenin'...mind wide open...haven't seen anything -solid- yet that sez sabotage, but you never know...
68 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:27 PM PST by TheBigB
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To: rit
Remember, both fell within 2 blocks of the crash site.

The thing that bugs me the most, is that the tail was found in Jamaica Bay. In other words the tail fell off first. Can anyone tell me how the hell that happend?

Under what circumstances would you find the tail falling off before the engines if it was "mechanical failure"?

This is not a conspiracy angle, it's an honest question.

69 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:31 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Peach
After hearing that the plane had a light inspection the night before

Where did you hear this? I haven't heard this yet.

70 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:32 PM PST by Jennifer in Florida
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To: history_matters
(Wish I could do that cool thing with colors that you do, classy. I like it.)

You mean like this?

sabatoge

J
God Bless

71 posted on 11/13/2001 1:21:48 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
It just had an inspection the day before

This is not a guarantee that something was not wrong, or that while inspecting they didn't do something incorrect when reassembling.... hell repairs have been done to aircraft impropertly that caused accidents years after the fact.

72 posted on 11/13/2001 1:22:06 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Dog Gone
If this is correct, then it's down to a fuel tank problem (do these planes even have a center fuel tank?) or terrorism. I can't think of any other possibilities

I recall several years ago a story in the Seattle papers about a B-52 at McChord AFB. The crew had just flown in, and were walking away from the aircraft when its wing fell off. It just broke off at the root. There was even a picture in the paper -- it crushed a piece of ground support equipment.

Fatigue effects could explain this accident, too. The point is: there are plenty of plausible mechanical failure modes. "Air frame rattle" could indicate trouble at the wing root, and a wing failure, and the possibility of fuel and electrical sparks in close proximity, are consistent with the reports of flames at the "armpit" of the aircraft.

73 posted on 11/13/2001 1:22:09 PM PST by r9etb
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To: X-Servative
Well, the plot thickens!
74 posted on 11/13/2001 1:22:28 PM PST by michigander
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To: irish_lad
The world is wide with possibilities on this one. A mechanic named something like "Ali Fawaz Maroud"? Some guys pretending to be food service? A missing stinger?
75 posted on 11/13/2001 1:22:54 PM PST by history_matters
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To: X-Servative
the plane was in maintanence overnight. terrorists got in and unscrewed a bunch of fasteners. the tail came off cleanly.
76 posted on 11/13/2001 1:23:25 PM PST by Barry Goldwater
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I like your font
77 posted on 11/13/2001 1:23:34 PM PST by Norb2569
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To: Sid Rich
Question: Now that the NTSB is saying something you like...why believe them? Shouldn't everything they say be suspect?

Because until now they were spinning and speculating.
1. Pataki/fuel dump
2. Engine failure
3. Birdstrike

Nice try, though.

78 posted on 11/13/2001 1:23:46 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Funny how the Freepers so quick to label others with "tin foil" are also so quick to scatter when a possible snippit of truth comes out.
79 posted on 11/13/2001 1:23:51 PM PST by webster
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To: X-Servative
With all dew respect to those that lost their lives in this tradegy .... now having paid my respects ...... It has been noted by the NTSB ... that a review of the radar tapes ... indicate that "A Flying Carpet" was detected on the radar screen at or near the location ... and time as the aircraft began to lose contact" .... this indicating and suggesting that "If in fact a flying carpet did hit the Tail and Rudder of the aircraft .... no stress fractures and or damage would be detected at the time of examination"

The NTSB was over heard suggesting that they call in "Carpet Fibre Experts to examine the Tail and Rudder parts"

Developing: Filed by the TinFoil Theory Patrol

80 posted on 11/13/2001 1:23:53 PM PST by GoldnGate
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