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1 posted on 11/10/2001 4:44:12 PM PST by Pokey78
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I have an idea. How about a photosyntesis process in which sunlight is used to break up water into oxygen and hydrogen. Oxygen get released into the atmosphere and hydrogen is shiped as fuel.

Any car that uses a spark plug engine can be converted for hydrogen use.

49 posted on 11/10/2001 6:54:12 PM PST by doomtrooper99
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This oil situation should be turned into a "win-win" situation. First, we waste an enormous amount of fuel driving over long distances to our jobs because the cities are spread out over so much area. This should be thoroughly aired out politically as it will of necessity restrict us in some ways. I recently moved, in part, because of the increasing traffic and time involved. I do not miss it. In my much smaller town I can now go anywhere where I live in 10 minutes or less.

Our vehicles are much too uneconomical. We can do a whole lot better here. The hybrid vehicles are the way to go and we could easily double the fuel mileage with little or nothing in the way of inconvenience.

Our domestic oil policy is absurd. We should probably strive for $5.00 a gallon gasoline price in order to ensure the economic recovery of less available resources. This should be adequate to make that possible. What difference does it make if we pay $5.00 a gallon for gasoline at the pump or pay for it anyway with the costs of terrorism? We still have to pay the bill anyway. The WTC costs will run over $100 billion alone not counting all of the other costs. As Bush said, let's roll!

52 posted on 11/10/2001 7:02:57 PM PST by RichardW
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Meanwhile....just keep driving that SUV...and going through plastic like it's - well - plastic.
53 posted on 11/10/2001 7:03:34 PM PST by d4now
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Excellent article. The way I see it we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. In time we can solve the oil problem by less reliance on the ME but that is only half of the equation.

Without our money they will still hate us, not to mention the burgeoning population increases in those countries who will continue to seek greener pastures in the west.

58 posted on 11/10/2001 7:27:53 PM PST by Aliska
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At the "present rate of consumption" when will all of the known oil reserves be consumed?
62 posted on 11/10/2001 7:37:06 PM PST by d4now
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SCROLL DOWN TO SEE WORLD PRODUCTION CHARTS BY COUNTRY
63 posted on 11/10/2001 7:39:46 PM PST by Fred25
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Ok, ok...

A quick commercial for the car I own. It is a hybrid gas-electric. But if you drove it you wouldn't even notice. You don't plug it in, you just put in regular gas. And after 700 miles all you do is stop at the gas station again and marvel at the 50-60 mpg you get.

Prius!

65 posted on 11/10/2001 7:44:42 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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Actually,one of the simpler things to do in this situation is to run cars on something else,hydrogen or alcohol.And invest billions for Russian and Mexican pipelines.We don't need the Saudi's THAT much.Eventually we have to find solutions to this problem anyway,because the oil is going to run out all together.
83 posted on 11/10/2001 8:53:38 PM PST by alithia
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The question is really academic and passé, because we have to win this conflict decisively -- bringing about a major realignment and Westernization of the Middle East -- for far more important reasons than oil. That the oil keeps coming will simply be an added bonus.
89 posted on 11/10/2001 9:47:44 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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Can we do without mayonaise, or hamburger buns, or soda pop, too. I don't think so!!
95 posted on 11/10/2001 10:27:47 PM PST by timestax
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If this were truly a war, the gasoline rationing coupons would have already been sent out, and the importing of petroleum from Saudi Arabia would have been forbidden.

But this is another armchair war...

98 posted on 11/11/2001 3:21:39 AM PST by snopercod
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If push comes to shove

If push comes to shove, it's All Over for the Mid-East.

102 posted on 11/11/2001 5:58:57 AM PST by lds23
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Let's just bomb the shi+ out of them and take it for free. The world would be better without the terrorist punks.
104 posted on 11/11/2001 6:49:20 AM PST by boycott
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Bump
113 posted on 11/11/2001 8:53:09 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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Son: Who's Saudia Arabia?

Father: Oh, that's now called southern Israel.
119 posted on 11/11/2001 9:43:33 AM PST by hsszionist
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DID ANYONE ELSE READ SOME DECADES AGO. . .

An expose type paperback book about . . . supposedly, reportedly during Ike's reign placing northern midwest oil fields into topsecret oil preserves . . . supposedly totalling more than Saudi Arabia's reserves. . . without the North Slope counted in. . . .

Supposedly it wasn't merely for defense in the traditional sense--but a strategic economic thing--drain the rest of the world of oil first, then we'd hold all the gold from which would flow all our "golden rules."

Was one of those books that was sort of plausible but how could average citizen know--even one reared in the oil fields.

140 posted on 11/12/2001 9:52:29 AM PST by Quix
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Well let's at least TRY to do with less oil products.
159 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:07 PM PST by timestax
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Am thinkink "fuel cells".

'Nuff said.

166 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:00 PM PST by Winged Elf
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If we ever need the oil but can't have Saudi oil, here is all we have to do. Step one - take royal family and put them in helicopters. Step two - fly helicopters over Persian gulf. Step three - drop royals in the drink. Step four - keep the oil, which is then no longer "Saudi" oil. Ta da! So complicated, isn't it?
173 posted on 12/06/2001 2:32:19 PM PST by JasonC
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In short, Saudi Arabia is and will remain the kingpin of the oil world, able to pump enough oil to satisfy America's thirst if it chooses.

Beg to differ on that point. Have anyone noticed the gas prices going down lately? you know why?...it is because we just signed a deal with Kazachstan to start pumping oil out of their grounds and as we speak talks between Chevron and Unical are ongoing, about tapping the unlimited resources of the Caspian Sea and Siberia in Russia.

The Russians have allready said they are not interested in the OPEC spiel of manipulating oil prices, all they want is the good ol'green back 'cause their people are starving.
See,... they do not have the technology of exploration we have, therefore they need us to harvest the oil.If you want more info check the Chevron.com web page, is very interesting. This is the very reason the oil prices are going down, and the ol' rag heads are freaking out that their well beign is going to be negatively affected by the recalcitrant Russians.

According to Chevron web site there is absolutely no shortage of oil supply, as a matter of fact there is in excess of one trillion barrels+ of oil reserve and untapped.

So this guy's expose' is just plain bunk...nothin' but waste of paper/bandwidth, he just did not do a real research to back it up.(typical liberals what do expect?).

183 posted on 12/13/2001 11:17:40 PM PST by danmar
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