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Pakistan may be source of anthrax attacks
The Times Of India ^ | November 7th,2001 | CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA

Posted on 11/07/2001 5:29:54 AM PST by pumacan

TIMES NEWS NETWORK WASHINGTON: The finger of suspicion for the anthrax attack on America points to terrorists in Pakistan.
US officials disclosed on Tuesday that a letter to the American consulate in Lahore that tested positive for anthrax in preliminary checks was mailed locally in Pakistan. Hitherto, all anthrax-tainted letters have originated in the United States.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher confirmed that the Lahore letter was mailed from within Pakistan. "It came in the local mail. They had an off-site mailroom facility and it was checked, bagged, isolated there and then sent on to us for further testing," he said.

Samples from the tainted letter have since arrived in the United States for further testing by the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

Several American consulates and facilities across the world have reported receiving anthrax-tainted letters. But all of them have come via diplomatic pouches from the United States. If further tests on the Lahore letter confirm anthrax contamination, it will be the first piece of such mail not to have originated in the U.S.

That could go a long way in determining whether the anthrax attacks are the work of the domestic disaffected or international terrorist, a question that has been vexing US authorities since the first tainted letters were detected soon after the September 11 carnage.

Officials however cautioned that it was still too early to come to any conclusions. Many preliminary confirmations of anthrax presence have turned out to be negative in later tests. For US authorities to make a linkage between the Lahore letter and the anthrax attack in the US, the strain would have to be identical.

Despite the growing indications that extremist elements in Pakistan may have penetrated facilities handling weapons of mass destruction, administration officials, particularly from the state department, appear sanguine about the security aspects, and have repeatedly certified that General Musharraf has things under control.


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To: pumacan
Hmmmm, the Times of INDIA pointing the finger of blame at PAKISTAN. No axe to grind there, right? Grain of salt.
101 posted on 11/07/2001 9:15:40 AM PST by jaime1959
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To: Sabertooth
The finger of suspicion for the anthrax attack on America points to terrorists in Pakistan.

Aha! Thanks for the info, Saber.

102 posted on 11/07/2001 9:16:03 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: pumacan
Time for a rambling rant (or I just can’t hold it back anymore.)

This whole anthrax thing has become a sick comedy of errors.

The authorities seem to be running in circles and really accomplishing very little except making the rest of the country dizzy trying to follow all the stupid crap they have been spouting. A good example being the BS they started spouting when the first case in FL was discovered. It was a ridiculous waste of time and resources, and flies in the face of common sense to propose that the victim might have picked up the disease drinking from a stream on a deer hunting trip in North Carolina in September. (Deer season, in my state is in November and December and it’s not likely to be in early September in any state.)

Government officials seem to take the American public for fools, and the real fools in the media give them encouragement by not doing their homework and challenging the BS. Other examples are the stories of so-called “right wing , domestic terrorists being responsible. I could go on for pages with the stupid BS “theories” that has been circulated and promoted in the press.

Any health, law enforcement, or government official who is ignoring the obvious 95%+ possibility that this is the “second wave” after the WTC / Pentagon attacks is too stupid or irresponsibly PC to be allowed to hold any position of public responsibility higher than garbage collector. It is time we started to beat down these stupid, lying, incompetents with public ridicule and scorn

Okay. Now Anthrax has shown up in Pakistan. And now a bunch of “sources” will try to come up a way to disconnect this with what is happening in this country so they can preserve the “domestic terrorist” option.

The fact is that the Afghan / Pakistan border has been a primary mode of entry and exit for the Islamic terrorists and there is significant sympathy for them still in Pakistan. I suspect that there are significant numbers of Talibanistas still moving back and forth across the border still. Pakistan is a hodge-podge of loyalties and views and the policies of its government have little effect on the actions and viewpoints of the population. The government has too little moral authority to positively influence the people and too little power to dictate to the people. Finding Anthrax in Pakistan is insignificant in giving us any leads to its source.

I cannot hold all of a nation as being evil because there are evil ones there, but if they tolerate evil in their midst, if they do not vigorously stamp out or expel that evil, they can NO LONGER lay claim to “innocent bystander” status. They become “complicit bystanders” and thereby subject to collateral damage. Cowardice in the presence of evil is not a virtue to be rewarded with a long peaceful life. Their claim of powerlessness is a sham. They should either fight the evil or get the h*ll out of the way.

104 posted on 11/07/2001 9:31:00 AM PST by rboatman
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To: rboatman
Hehe zactly!!!! Bump BUMP
105 posted on 11/07/2001 9:50:46 AM PST by monday
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To: pumacan; dirtboy
"Now regarding the antrax-laced letters mailed in the united states, this may have been mailed by terrorists currently slipped into USA who are supported by Bin Laden who is supported by Taleban in turn who is funded and supported by Pakistani government. Thus we reached to the dead end and thus probably to the very source of this terror. Again it's not yet proved but may be."

Please read the following abstract between Pakistan's Ambassador to the United Nations, Shamshad Ahmad and MARGARET WARNER from www.PBS.ORG

Internal policy on terrorism

MARGARET WARNER: Now, you spoke earlier about Pakistan and terrorism, and, as you know, the State Department and maybe other critics have in fact charged that Pakistan does harbor terrorists, that your intelligence service in fact armed and trained the Taliban, that you armed and trained Islamic fighters in Afghanistan, some fight with bin Laden, some fight up in Kashmir against India.

And my question is: Is Pakistan prepared to change any of those policies now as part of this global fight against terrorism?

SHAMSHAD AHMAD: Well, I think you are forgetting that Pakistan is itself a victim of terrorism.
We have been suffering from terrorism for years, almost every day there have been bomb blasts, explosions in Pakistan. It is another matter that these incidents of terrorism have never been publicized in the western media. But there have been heavy losses of innocent lives in Pakistan, and these acts of terrorism have been perpetrated from outside. And not only this -- we are located in a geography, which is a region which is volatile, and which has been scene of instability for the last more than two decades. So you cannot choose your geography, you cannot choose your neighbors.
We have been there, and we share a very long border with Afghanistan and a very long and hostile border with India in our East. So all these allegations about Pakistan's involvement in alleged terrorism, they are just baseless and preposterous allegations, which have been made by our enemies for their self-serving reasons.
And I must say here that the other day, I saw on this very program India's foreign minister answering your questions. While I do respect Mr. Jaswant Singh as the foreign minister of a neighboring country with which---despite our best efforts for the last 50 years---we have not been able to have good neighborly relations, although we are doing our best to resumption of a meaningful dialogue----but I must question a couple of claims --.

MARGARET WARNER: So you aren't prepared to say whether you know where bin Laden is?

SHAMSHAD AHMAD: Oh, he's not in Pakistan.

MARGARET WARNER: All right. Thank you, Mr. Ambassador, very much.

SHAMSHAD AHMAD: Thank you.

You can read the full interview details at http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/july-dec01/pakistan_10-3.html

Clearly Pakistan's Ambassador to the United Nations, Shamshad Ahmad had no answer to Margaret Warner question and he deviated by saying Pakistan is also facing terrorism.

This is not a coincidence that pumacan and others on this post are trying to justify that may be Pakistan is involved. Well I say they are you fools.

When Pakistan's Ambassador to the United Nations, Shamshad Ahmad cannot justify Pakistani innocence. How can you expect pumacan to justify it.

106 posted on 11/07/2001 10:16:09 AM PST by Daveforjustice
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To: NC Conservative
"I wish we would get off this extremist nonsense. There is no "moderate" or "extreme muslims". All Islam is beligerent. Read the Koran Qu'ran.. Whatever it is called."

I used to think that Islam was a peaceful religion until I did some research and read the Koran. Unfortunately, you're right: it is a violent, intolerant religion. With the unfolding of events past and present concerning Islam and my newfound knowledge of the Koran, I have a dreadful feeling about all of this.

I pray our campaign will defeat them soundly, not just stiffen them for the next round, so to speak. These people's thought processes scare me.
107 posted on 11/07/2001 10:23:25 AM PST by DeoGratias
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To: pumacan; *Anthrax_Scare_List
I thought that I heard on FOXNEWS that the letter has been tested in the US and has tested negative!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using Anthrax_Scare_List

Go here: Anthrax_Scare_List

108 posted on 11/07/2001 10:26:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Daveforjustice
How can you expect pumacan to justify it.

Once again, someone jumps into the exchange and tries to justify scenario A with scenario B. I am not asking pumacan to justify Pakistani innocence. I am asking pumacan how a letter mailed in Pakistan implicates the government of Pakistan. Try to stay on the subject.

109 posted on 11/07/2001 10:36:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: harpseal
What it indicates to me is that there are internal politics within the FBI in trying to find the source of the anthrax letters.

Don't forget that the FBI is still highly klintonized, and the democRATS are fighting hard to keep Bush's people out by stopping confirmations. They have spent eight years blaming everything on the "right wing", and ignoring real security threats from countries the klintons did business with.

The klintons are desperate, and I see them and their flying monkies doing everything possible to hinder the war effort. Come the 2004 election, Hitlery declares "Bush's war" to be a failure and a "quagmire". She promises instant action, and, if elected, starts an immediate round-up of the "right wing".

110 posted on 11/07/2001 10:40:19 AM PST by 300winmag
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To: 300winmag
If that happens then western Civilization and the USA are doomed.

Stay well - stay safe - stay armed - yorktown

111 posted on 11/07/2001 10:46:21 AM PST by harpseal
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To: pumacan
It doesn't matter if this is a propaganda or not

It doesn't matter to you if the information is propaganda or not???

You and your friend who posted this article have been on the FR less than a week and I suggest your begin dealing in facts and forget propaganda.

112 posted on 11/07/2001 10:49:28 AM PST by rmvh
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To: rmvh
Hey, he tried pulling this line on me:

We are not here to prove anything neither are we suppose to. We are here to expess our views.

Isn't he special?

113 posted on 11/07/2001 10:51:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: wjeanw
The fact that it has been reported Pakistan is moving their nuclear weapons to China for "safe-keeping" should give you a clue as to what is happening.

But it's not a fact. All that has been reported is speculation, primarily by journalists in India, that Pakistan might do that rather than allow the nukes to be seized in a pro-Taliban coup. Pakistan has repeatedly stated that their nukes are in a completely safe command and control environment and that there is no danger of them falling into the hands of radicals.

It's important to keep fact and speculation apart in our minds.

114 posted on 11/07/2001 11:14:31 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: jpthomas
So, did Pakistan's ties with the PRC suddenly end when the war on terrorism started? Have the PRC suddenly abondoned their plans to codevelop the new Navy base outside of Karachi so as to ultimately project naval power not only into the Strait of Malacca, but also Hormuz?
115 posted on 11/07/2001 4:59:16 PM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: Thud
Both Al-Q'ueda and Taliban are creations of the Pakistani ISI. Is it merely a coincidence that the ISI are, to this day, undermining the US efforts from within? Another question - is Musharraf really who we think he is and are his statements truly reflective of what Pakistan are really doing behing the scenes? Deception in South Asia - nah! Never! Couldn't happen!
116 posted on 11/07/2001 5:03:43 PM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: Dog Gone
Have you ever read "Islamabad's Road Warriors" by Yossef Bodansky?
117 posted on 11/07/2001 5:09:58 PM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: constable tom
Or, is is possible the Musharraf is playing a two faced game, one face to the US and our pathetic Powellian "coalition" that includes the likes of Syria (we even attempted to sign up Cuba!) and yet, his real face to his buddies running the ISI? Could life be stranger than fiction?
118 posted on 11/07/2001 5:12:43 PM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: John H K
Got disinfo?
119 posted on 11/07/2001 5:15:49 PM PST by GOP_1900AD
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To: belmont_mark
No, I haven't. Bodansky is an interesting person, but I'm not sure how credible he is. He seems to make a career out of seeing a moslem conspiracy under every rock. He even argued that Sudan was making chemical weapons at the aspirin factory that Clinton eventually bombed.
120 posted on 11/07/2001 5:56:38 PM PST by Dog Gone
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