[annalex]

I believe that the United States and Israel, each country for its own reasons and it its own way, are flagships of the western civilization and both countries are under attack for that reason.

However, I agree with the author: the supporters of Isreal need to make the case for themselves, be it a civilizational argument along the lines that I presented, or some other argument.

[Patria One]

Can you give me even two reasons why you think Israel is a "flagship"?

(They have been at war with their neighbors for 60 years or so and they are the largest ever recipients of Foreign Aid in modern history.What's Flagship about that?)

[madrussian]

I believe that the United States and Israel, each country for its own reasons and it its own way, are flagships of the western civilization and both countries are under attack for that reason.

You must be kidding, Israel can be hardly called a "Western" country, let alone a "flagship".

[Askel5]

each country for its own reasons and it its own way, are flagships of the western civilization

You're going to have to be very specific with me regarding the parallels between our Declaration and Constitution and the confection of Israel by globalists at the behest of Soviet-sponsored terrorists.