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To: Starmaker
Question. The argument against having Fed employees for airport security is that Civil Service employees "Can Not" be fired. WHY???????? I wish some Democrat would explain to me why a civil service employee cannot be fired. WHY????????
3 posted on 11/06/2001 7:55:13 AM PST by KCKTXAM
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To: KCKTXAM
Apparently, they are not firing private workers either. They were just suspended.
4 posted on 11/06/2001 7:57:49 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: KCKTXAM
So if Gore were elected, he couldn't just name Dem operatives as civil servants, and that Bush can't do likewise with Republicans, taht's why they can't be fired.
6 posted on 11/06/2001 8:00:34 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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To: KCKTXAM
Because the firing of govt. workers is considered state action, and any even remotely minority worker, including women and all minority religeons, would sue for discrimination if they were fired. Ask any lawyer about all the "unfireable" classes of people, especially when they are govt. employees.
7 posted on 11/06/2001 8:06:13 AM PST by JohnMac
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To: KCKTXAM
"Question. The argument against having Fed employees for airport security is that Civil Service employees "Can Not" be fired. WHY???????? I wish some Democrat would explain to me why a civil service employee cannot be fired. WHY????????"

I'm definitely not a Democrat. However, federal slots, much like private slots, are usually eliminated by downsizing or attrition. The 'legal hassles', while less in private business, are still great should a terminated employee CLAIM 'wrongful termination'.

Usually a federal employee, liked a tenured professor, must be terminated for CAUSE. Because of multiple levels of supervision and regulation, most government employees can find some directive or regulation that supports whatever action they took that management dismissed them for. (i.e., if a supervisor instructs a worker that an inspection task must take no more than 45 seconds, who is 'at fault' when at 45 seconds the inspector stops inspecting, and 'weapons' get by undetected?

It doesn't matter who the inspectors are, IMHO, if inspection guidelines, like immigration guidelines, are not followed because of expediency and time pressure. Value judgments are made every day in our lives, some with disastrous consequences.

Saying employees CANNOT be fired is incorrect; but, any person fired is usually seen as a 'victim' in today's PC environment. Most supervisors and their legal advisors and insurance providers SAY SETTLE, it will cost more to fight. Therefore, with each passing day, more and more wrong is accepted as right--while service, security, education, and freedom decline.

13 posted on 11/06/2001 8:19:08 AM PST by d14truth
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To: KCKTXAM
I wish some Democrat would explain to me why a civil service employee cannot be fired. WHY????????

That's a myth. Civil Service employees can and do get fired.

Every policeman and fireman in this country is a civil service employee.

Would you feel safer if the regular city police force were doing airport screening or a private contractor were doing the screening.

I will go with the gov't employee every time.

14 posted on 11/06/2001 8:21:52 AM PST by sonofagun
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