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To: Dr. Frank
Ok, first of all, I used the word "seem" - an obvious qualifier of subjectivity, not quite the sweeping statment you've taken me to task for. That being said, you are correct, I have not conducted an extensive study of the hiring practices of MLB and NFL teams. I wasn't aware I had to conduct such research to enter a discussion on this site. I was referring to the ample anecdotal evidence, which I will run down for you if you like. The better question to be raised would be, "Do you believe that pro sports was racist and discriminatory in the past, and if so, do you believe this behavior is completely gone?" I believe that the intentional, institutional discrimination against black athletes and coaches has gone away. I also believe that the effects of years of racist decisions and behavior in pro sports has left behind something of a mess, and I'm interested in discussing what, if anything, can be done about it.
27 posted on 11/06/2001 10:05:28 AM PST by BostonGuy
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To: BostonGuy
Ok, first of all, I used the word "seem" - an obvious qualifier of subjectivity, not quite the sweeping statment you've taken me to task for.

Thank you for clarifying that your statement was heavily qualified.

I wasn't aware I had to conduct such research to enter a discussion on this site.

To enter a discussion? You don't. To have your observations, of what "seems" (to you) to be true, taken seriously? Perhaps.

Maybe an extensive study is not required; however, your statements ought to have at least some grounding in fact. Agreed?

I also believe that the effects of years of racist decisions and behavior in pro sports has left behind something of a mess,

This is an autobiographical statement on your part, and of limited use to the rest of us when objectively evaluating the state of professional sports.

and I'm interested in discussing what, if anything, can be done about it.

About your beliefs regarding professional sports? I would suggest that what you can do about them is investigate the facts and discover or verify for yourself whether these beliefs of yours are grounded. If so, then maybe you could even explain why, to the rest of us. If not, you could alter your beliefs accordingly, to bring them into conformity with reality. Best,

32 posted on 11/06/2001 11:20:16 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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