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To: Sungirl
"EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT", by Josh McDowell should prove to be a useful witness for both you and your friend.

Proof of evolution? There isn't any. For every alleged "proof" that the creation worshipers provide, there is also a proof that the Creator worshipers can provide. Always ends up in a battle on the flesh-level and leads nobody to an understanding or relationship with God.

Look around. Notice how everything is in perfect balance. If the earth were rotating just three miles per hour faster than it is, all the balance on the planet would be unfit for life. If there wasn't the tilt to the earth's axis, the planet would be uninhabitable. If the earth's orbit around the sunwere three miles per hour faster than it is, it would spin off into icy space and if it were three miles per hour slower, it would crash into the sun. If we didn't have the moon, to create our tides, the oceans would choke, as the tides clean the ocean and enhance the O2 production.

Everywhere you look you see intelligent design. 15,000 different chemicle processes occur in a human cell each minute. Each one is essential for life. The statistical probability of life occurring from nonliving matter exceeds the possibility of the event ever happening by chance.

The first and second laws of thermodynamics show that evolution cannot happen. The universe is decaying, not moving toward more order, yet the evo-theory wants you to believe that theses two laws of physics apply to all of the universe except their pet theory of evolution. It is almost like me saying that the law of gravity applies to every object in the universe, except me...that's why I can fly and nobody else can. Ridiculous! You'd rightly think me to be nutty if I said such a thing, because we both know that the law of gravity is universal and I am not exempt from it. So too, are the first and second laws of thermodynamics also universal in their application. The evolutionists have consistantly had to elongate the time period of the evolutionary processes to accomidate their fanciful theory, for as science has observed more and more of the universe, their theory seems to crumble...then they say...."oh...I guess it just took longer than we originally thought". Don't believe me? Look back at the various theories for the age of the earth. You'll find that as the years went by, the evos had to add more and more years to their dating, to accomidate the statistical improbabilities.

Last point. Geochronometers. These are earth signs (time clocks) that help us date the earth. For instance...at the current rate of decay in the size of the sun (entropy...2nd law of thermodynamics), just 500,000 years ago, the sun's size would have been so large that every living thing on this planet would have been incinerated. Look at the moon; by it's orbital decay rate, just 50,000 years ago, the moon's proximatey would have been so close that the tidal fluctuations alone would have flooded great areas of the planet and the gravitational pull would have created eathquakes that would have torn the earth up so badly that earthquakes would be relentless, with daily volcanic eruptions. A place unsuitable for life. Yet the evos want us to believe that the cosmos are (in my best Carl Sagan voice) "billions and billions of years old".

Creationists begin with a Creator who created everything for a purpose. It makes sense and the creation itself testifies to this truth.

The evolutionists on the other hand wish for you to believe that nothing created everything, out of nothing and for no purpose and by some radom chance, everthing worked out perfectly. Talk about a supernatural event!

All the words won't convince anyone. Just look around. When you pick up an arrowhead from the stream, you can see how it has intellegent design as opposed to random rocks that have been beaten around by the river. You can clearly see the hand of its creator by observation. Now look at the universe. Do you see purpose? Do you see intellegent design? Do you see th balance in the universe?

Psalm 19:1 says; "The heavens declare the glory of God and the earth, His handiwork (in original Hebrew, "His fingerwork"). Roman's chapter 1 says that everyone already knows that God exists, because the creation proves it and proves that the creation is not Him, but was created by Him and that there is no excuse for supressing the truth. Those that do supress this truth worship the creation rather than the creator.

This thread is going to invite some nasty and ungodly debate, as these crevo threads always do. The bottom line is that since the origin of life and higher life forms are neither observable, testable, reproducable, or falsifiyable, it cannot be proven by traditional scientific observational techniques, regardless of the nonsense that will be posted here. You either believe in evolution by faith, or you believe in creation by faith. Look around and let your senses, logic and your heart tell you what you learn from observing the universe.

Proof of God? Look into your heart. Do you see a level of morality? In order for you to have a moral standard, you have to have received it form a moral law giver. Wanna take a guess Who that law giver is? He said that He created us in His image. Animals have no such moral law. He has already written in your heart that He exists; all you have to do is look. Now, do you want a clearer picture of Him manifested? Please read the gospel of John. Before you do, pray a simple prayer, something like this..."God, if you really do exist, then I want to know about you and to know you personally. Please help me to understand what I am about to read, so that I can understand". If your desire is sincere, He'll answer your prayer. Promise.

His best wishes to you.
Your friend.

baa

56 posted on 11/04/2001 11:45:26 AM PST by woollyone
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To: woollyone
I was going to write a reply to this poster, but yours is excellent. Sounds like someone has been listening to "The Battle for the Beginning." Well done.

If I could add one thing, it would be to all concerned: "Either believe in Creationism or evolution." Don't try to mix the two as they are totally contradictory. The only eyewitness to creation recorded; who did it, how it was done, and how long it took. One either believes the Bible or one doesn't.

67 posted on 11/04/2001 12:07:46 PM PST by good1
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