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French Claim US Campaign Is Failing
Newsday ^ | 11/4/01

Posted on 11/04/2001 8:38:50 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PARIS (Reuters) - Nearly half the French public believes the four-week-old U.S. military action in Afghanistan is failing, a poll released Sunday showed.

The survey by pollsters Ipsos for the Journal du Dimanche weekly showed 47 percent thought the campaign was failing, with just 17 percent confident of success.

The remainder of the 969-head sample, interviewed on November 2, gave no response or said the outlook was unclear. No definition for what constituted success or failure was given.


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Why did we ever save their sorry asses?
1 posted on 11/04/2001 8:38:51 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Sadly I kinda agree with them. I don't know how many times I've said it, but only an air campaign does NNNNOTTTTTTT work. Bombing the hell out of a country is not a sanitized 21st quick fix version of war that will work. I'm confident of a US victory.
2 posted on 11/04/2001 8:44:28 AM PST by ChicagoRepublican
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The French are ready to surrender already? What a friggin' surprise.
3 posted on 11/04/2001 8:48:11 AM PST by SunStar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Just exactly what part of President Bush's statement that this war may take YEARS don't they understand??? Do they know something we don't (e.g. France is hiding terrorist groups)?
4 posted on 11/04/2001 8:48:40 AM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: ChicagoRepublican
"The Taliban is not really functioning as a government as such," Rumsfeld told reporters after meeting Pakistan's Foreign Minister Abdul Sattar in Islamabad.

United States: Military Campaign Making Progress

5 posted on 11/04/2001 8:50:27 AM PST by SunStar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
One of the great mistakes of American foreign policy was in not letting the Germans keep France! ;-)
6 posted on 11/04/2001 8:51:14 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: SunStar
It's not that simple. Do they surrender to the Taliban, to al Qaeda, or at the nearest mosque?
7 posted on 11/04/2001 8:54:43 AM PST by dighton
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
What part of "bomb them back into the stoneage, then send in troops to sweep up" do people not understand. We'll finish these clymers off when we're good and ready, so tell the french surrender monkies to stuff that in their peace pipes and smoke it.
8 posted on 11/04/2001 8:56:34 AM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Those the same ones that thought the Maginot line was going to keep the Germans out????
9 posted on 11/04/2001 8:59:08 AM PST by cynicom
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Half of the French think we are failures?!!

This is amazing! I never thought that in my lifetime I would ever see the number so low.

Bravo!

11 posted on 11/04/2001 9:03:08 AM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"With no clear victories to point to yet,"

Huh? We have total air superiority and have lost 2 helicopters and 2 drones in the process, all in less than 2 months after the terrorist attacks in a place almost directly on the other side of the world from our country.

Logistically alone, I find this to be an amazing feat. After all, how can we insert ground forces if we don't have any over there yet, and no established platform from which to attack?

I say bomb them into dust and worry about whether we're "winning" or not later.

12 posted on 11/04/2001 9:03:50 AM PST by gore_sux
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Nearly half the French public believes the four-week-old U.S. military action in Afghanistan is failing, a poll released Sunday showed.

In November, 1939, the French public and news media were ridiculing the "Phony War" with Germany.

In June, 1940, the victorious German Army marched in a victory parade along the same route through Paris that the French Army had taken on their victory parade at the end of World War One.

13 posted on 11/04/2001 9:07:22 AM PST by Polybius
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I thought the French had surrendered 5 weeks ago.
14 posted on 11/04/2001 9:07:35 AM PST by gunshy
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
50 million wrong again, and bumped to boot.
15 posted on 11/04/2001 9:08:03 AM PST by Marylander
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>
In a related story...today 65% of American citizens expressed doubt that France will eventually win WWII.
16 posted on 11/04/2001 9:09:09 AM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Why did you change the title? It's a poll. The French believethe campaign is failing--in a poll. They do not claim as your replacement title indicates.

As to the "success" or "failure" of this campaign--how will Americans guage the outcome?--Those who are still sentient enough to want to know what's going on, that is.

And, by the way, what IS the goal? Is it the childishly fatuous goal of rooting out terrorism in the world? Vanquishing Evil? Smoking out Osama and his--perhaps tens-of-thousands--of toadies.

If so, then the French--rational as always--are correct--so far.

But I'm an American and I know that Shoeless George will have, at the very least, given Evil a bloody nose by the time the calla lillies are in bloom....

We saved their sorry assess? In round One of the campaign to make the world safe for democracy we waited until the end--until the Europeans were bled out. Most of the action took place on French soil. Imagine the soil of Ohio awash with millions of dead humans. Imagine life under those circumstances. And yet, the French maintained their culture.

Had we kept our noses out of Round One, and followed the advice of our Founders, Round Two would not have happened. England and France would have been forced to sign a very different peace accord than the one signed at Versailles. So one could accurately state that the US intervention in WWI made WWII inevitable.

In the midst of your comtempt you might also consider the fact that through all of the twists and turns of their history, the French have managed to maintain a recognisably French culture and French way of living. Has The Last Remaining Superpower On Earth managed to do that--for all our wealth and military might?

17 posted on 11/04/2001 9:10:18 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
le bourgeoise.
18 posted on 11/04/2001 9:10:25 AM PST by ken21
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Well, this is cause for an attitude adjustment. If the frogs say we are failing we must be doing better than I had thought.
19 posted on 11/04/2001 9:12:07 AM PST by mercy
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
My goodness! I found a person who is obviously very intelligent and dares to speak sense. You must be one of the few who do not subscribe to the 'let's nuke them all'type of approach. Thanks for the thoughtful post.
20 posted on 11/04/2001 9:14:45 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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