Willey is worse that Stinnett if possible. His allegations of prior JN-25B decrypts have been soundly repudiated by National Archives documents plus the testimony of those involved. He damns the USN cryptologists for lying and being a part of the alleged conspiracy.
I am not familiar with Bartlett's "Cover-up: The Politic of Pearl Harbor." Apparently, it doesn't have much credibility among objective historians. What facts does he rely on???? Same for Barkin or Fishel. Pretty obscure sources in my book. What facts?????
You seem to have missed my agreement as to Marshall's negligence in handling Japanese diplomatic decrypts, but you can't hang any JN-25B or conspiracy charges on him for that.
I have responded to your claims for Toland's Seaman Z/Ogg with specifics. It does no good to answer with book titles and generalities. What did OGG see or do??? Again, facts not fantacies. Ogg's egotistical late "rememberances" have been soundly repudiated by the Commander Newman interview. What else do you have? Why didn't you admit that Ogg is related to Kimmell?
Costello is another revisionist theorist and provides no credible evidence in "Days of Infamy." There have been scores of reams of British records release in the Kew Public Office and I have copies of many of them. They show that FECB did not decrypt JN-25B before 7 Dec 41 and were actually behind the U.S. Navy in this effort. So how could such decrypts be in Churchill's files? You can't close the loop when the capability to decrypt JN-25B was not there!!!
You seem to have missed my expose of Stinnett's interpretation of the TESTM reports. Go back and read my article. Then you will see there is nothing in the TESTM reports to substantiate any Kido Butai messages or HFDF fixes. Again, let's talk facts not fantacy! As to GUPID, Stinnett has not produced any messages in the crypto system that supports his conspiracy theory allegations. The mere fact that the U.S. Navy had three or four cryptographic systems to pass cryptologic information proves nothing. Please cite a specific GUPID or TESTM message and what it says that supports Stinnett's and your allegations.
After all their "evidence" of FDR's alleged conspiracy has been debunked, the last refuge is to maintain there are still classified documents being hidden by the present administration and National Archives personnel who are also in on the massive conspiracy that is continuing to date.
Let's get off the backs of the dedicated naval cryptologic personnel who although few in numbers did keep track of Japanese naval operations through cryptology and provided the great information that won the Battle of Midway helped shoot down Yamamoto. Rochefort and his group at Station H were at Pearl Harbor too. Ten navy cryptologists spent the war as POW's in Japan. Some were killed and injured on the New Mexico etc.
Why can't you just admit the Japanese pulled off a daring surprise attack under extreme secrecy? That secrecy hid the movement of the Kido Butai westward to Pearl Harbor from Rochefort, Corregidor and FECB. In fact, no message outlining the Pearl Harbor attack was ever sent by radio. Stinnett has been proven wrong on that issue also. See Larry Schweikart's book review above.
Why tarnish the good names of dedicated Navy men due to a hate for FDR and his liberal politics. Conservatives like Professor Larry Schweikart and myself can see through Stinnett's tortured logic and misreprentations of cryptologic documents. Why can't you? Honoring those who were killed at Pearl Harbor is not dependent on damning the good names of their Navy shipmates who happen to be cryptologists.
Very easy, "Those that make a mess get to clean it up - very publicly.
Pearl Harbor has, as you know, "smelled to high ..." for years. Suppressio veri, suggestio falsi - Suppression of the truth is a suggestion of the false.
Just far too many "loose-ends" for me.
Seems you do not like British sources - Barkin and Fishel. N.B., I gave two pointers, one for each of the two viewpoints. On the "Winds Execute" ... Layton's shows the index with JD #7001 noted as missing. What do the British say ... Ooops, is it in those BJ's Costello lists? [At the 1995 Thurmond/Spence Hearing on "clearing" Kimmel/Short - i.e., left to "twist" in the breeze by the US Navy for fifty + years, Costello was a witness. At the end of his time he asked the Congressmen to help get the UK to release those BJ's. Nothing yet ... must be a reason. On the SS Lurline radio log ... gone missing. Admiral King "orders" Navy personnel not to testify. ... Very funny.
Another "old" reference ... in Admiral Kimmel's Story, Chapter VI "Suppression of Evidence" Section 2 "The White House File" ... you ever see this file. [Hint: No one has, it is like Marshall on the the evening of Dec 6th - a real phanton.] Does it smell in here.
On TESTM ... before Stinnett reproduction ... ever see that message "type" in public before? On GUPID ... please post those Stinnett cites ... all "locked-up" - STILL!!!
This JN-25(a --- z) soup is a same-old, same-old ... its the old MAGIC dodge of yester-year - a great "four corners" stall, stall, ... All hinges on he said/her said ... I'll see your SRH-051 and raise you a SRH-149. At least Villa is honest in saying that it is likely that some documents will never appear in the Archives [It did piss the British off that MAGIC was revealed in the mid-40's testimony - recall ULTRA opened up in 1975. Oh, yes, as you know Churchill denied having access MAGIC ... See Costello.]
So let's agree that the PA-K2 ... light signals, the bomb plots were enough to show Pearl Harbor was the target and that Dec. 7th was the day ... in plenty of time to warn Kimmel/Short. So ...
Why were Kimmel/Short not told of the "light signals" ..?
And, as always ... why is so much "stuff" still classifed??? But then I suspect you know why?
On FDR ... not a fine fellow at at ... along many dimensions. But then, Clinton displayed similar behaviors and the "four estate" obliged [as they did with FDR.]
Finally, the last sentence in Morgenstern Chapter "Who's Guilty" sums it up ...