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To: jamaksin
There is no doubt that Churchill knew the Japanese were poised to attack somewhere in the western Pacific ... there is nothing to indicate the British had intelligence indicating the Japs were going to attack Pearl Harbor first. Anything to the contrary is pure bunk pushed forward by Monday AM historical revisionists & journalists.

WWII ended in 1945 ... 56 years ago. Any, so called, secret files from that era have been disclosed. British Intelligence, in late 1941, had only began to break the German Enigma code. They were no further along on the Japanese code than the Americans. The Japanese did not reveal their war plans to the Germans ... at least not specific battle plans. The Germans were as unaware of the pending attack on Pearl Harbor as the Brits and Americans. My succinct analysis (underlined and in bold above) remains as stated.

26 posted on 11/04/2001 6:36:18 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
Recall that the British also had a Purple machine and these funny things BJ (Black Jumbo) messages.

To this day the content of boxes (yellow in color) C/8160 and C/8161 has ever been released.

For example, box C/8160 has messages BJ 098107, 098148, 098149, 098151, and 098152 - none has seen the light of day.

Box C/8162 has a repeat of BJ 098151 (an intercepted report from the Japanese amassbor in Turkey, ...

Box C/8165 has only German ULTRA reports.

So, what is in the identified and NOT released boxes - PURPLE, FECB broken naval meassages, ... What???

Also, note that under the British Official Secrets Act, some of these documents were sealed for 75 years; some of Churchill's personal papers are sealed until 100 years after his death - he died in 1969.

46 posted on 11/05/2001 1:47:59 AM PST by jamaksin
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