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To: zog
..."then LOOK at what's been going on for a long time, give it a critical eye.
We have two political parties, apparently carved in stone, but not legally, it just is. (T)hey go way, way, way out of their way to make sure that no other parties get much press, or that election rules and running are easy, and etc.
The media is controlled, never forget that.
The "media" is owned by (about) a dozen people.
These people are buddies with the very top levels in the D's and R's, plus with the international money men-it's all a big club.
No matter which party is "in power" in congress or the executive branch, we have seen the step by step advancing towards a truly global fascist state, with the US as being the apparent "leader".
Look at all the bogus laws passed, the gradual rise of the governmental bureaucracy, the sheer numbers involved.
Look at the treaties, the selling out of the workplace, at all the undeclared wars, the 'executive orders" used to run extremely important 'things" which are suposed to be done by "congress".
...It's a good cop/bad cop scam routing being run, run by skilled actors and international power brokers and money men. They are all GREAT at rousing the rabbles-one side or the other-to support them, always blaming the other guy for what goes wrong.
Same scam been running for decades and decades, but-SURPRISE! Nothing changes really, except for the worse.
Minor differences in rhetoric, but where the rubber meets the road-it's always the same ole same ole. They ALL make big money and stay in complete power running the scam. There is ZERO profit in it for any of them in stopping the scam, none. One hand washes the other.
The coverups continue because they are all in on it, it's worth trillions and trillions of dollars and life and death POWER over millions of people. Pure megalomania, institutionalised, cheered on, paid for, VOTED for.
Except at the excrutiatingly high levels, even their true believer supporters mostly can't see it, and really don't want to see it, because they really want honest government, and desperately want the system to work, so they develop blinders.
It's just human nature, you really don't want to believe you are supporting a lie, or profiting from a lie, so it goes on. The liars have everything to gain from maintaining all the lies, that's the nature of liars, and if they are megalomaniacs as well....you get the picture.
Sure they have some squabbles with each other, but think of them as wolves fighting over the herd. They STOP fighting each other if the herd looks like they have noticed that there really aren't that many wolves, so they pick a few out and sacrifice them, to get the herds all squared away again, back to grazing, in either this wolfs pasture or that wolfs pasture, as long as they know their place, keep grazing, and never see the true nature of the wolves, or how few wolves there really are.
...We have predators "ruling" us, they most definetly do NOT lead, they rule.
They are FIRST allied to each other as being wolves, you and I they consider part of the herd. The wolves may fight each other occassionally, but never stop being fellow wolves with each other.
Never. Carved in stone.
94 posted on 11/3/01 9:54 PM Central by zog"

I too think this is how it is.
It's an everyday fact that there are people who will literally kill you for the lousy 50 bucks you might have in your pocket, so why wouldn't other people do whatever they have to do to maintain control of enormous power and money?
Not pleasant to consider, but nevertheless true.
I think the only chance of ever turning this around is by breaking up the consolidated control of the media outlets. Get some independent truth out to the average citizen.
Whenever that does happen, the response is always immediate.
But that is number one, two and three; get the microphone back.

134 posted on 11/04/2001 10:55:40 AM PST by Memphis Schmuel
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To: Memphis Schmuel
--thanks for the comments! As to the media, we have the INTERNET! it's taking over, people are becoming not just consumers of the news, but reporting it, commenting on it-and making it! Because we can share, instantly, we can bypass the controlled press, or at least get to look at so many angles, that it becomes "more" real than in the past. Just like this thread, and okc submariners work, and so many others work, we all can be 'the media" now. And yes, that's really our best chance right now.
143 posted on 11/04/2001 1:56:07 PM PST by zog
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