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To: eggman; joan; NYCVirago
"The building reached temperatures of 6000 degrees...""

What an incredibly ignorant statement!

All of the materials known to have existed in the buildings would have either vaporized, or become incandescant thousands of degrees below such an absurd temperature. - Had the temp. risen above 800 degrees, there could not have been any black smoke, as the carbon would have oxidized quickly at that temp. - Post again when you graduate from the 8th grade.

"Planting explosives would have taken months, would have had to involve many people (some of whom would have talked by now), would be easily detected by an investigation,..."

It could have taken months, or years; I don't know, but it was done. - Those who have attempted to 'talk' about OKC, where the same thing was done on a smaller scale (trial run?) have either been killed, prosecuted on false charges, or silenced by the shrill screams from the lap-dog media.

Finally, who would be conducting this alleged 'investigation?' - - "Who will guard the guards?"

236 posted on 11/02/2001 7:36:33 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Have you read the content on this web page: konformist:

http://peoplw.aol.com/people/special/0,11859,174592-3,00.html

Louie Cacchioli, 51, is a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem.

September 12, 2001

We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a BOMB went off. WE THINK THERE WAS BOMBS SET IN THE BUILDING. I had just asked another firefighter to stay with me, which was a good thing because we were trapped inside the elevator and he had the tools to get out.

There were probably 500 people trapped in the stairwell. It was mass chaos. The power went out. It was dark. Everybody was screaming. We had oxygen masks and we were giving people oxygen. Some of us made it out and some of us didn't. I know of at least 30 firefighters who are still missing. This is my 20th year. I am seriously considering retiring. This might have done it.

***

When the first broadcast were being made of interviews with people who were standing watching the buildings burn, one commentator said while watching the building: "What's that you heard? 'Pop, pop, pop,' and you saw glass being blown AWAY from the building and THEN the building begin to crash?"

The glass being blown outward was shown going from the bottom UP, NOT from the top DOWN.

I saw it, I heard it, and I said to myself those were detonations. Later I saw the same clip shown, but with no sound.

237 posted on 11/02/2001 8:09:25 AM PST by joan
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To: editor-surveyor
Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
238 posted on 11/02/2001 10:27:21 AM PST by finnman69
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To: editor-surveyor
All of the materials known to have existed in the buildings would have either vaporized, or become incandescant thousands of degrees below such an absurd temperature. - Had the temp. risen above 800 degrees, there could not have been any black smoke, as the carbon would have oxidized quickly at that temp. - Post again when you graduate from the 8th grade.

So the temperature never went above 800 degrees, huh? Can you please explain these articles:

The jets that exploded into the towers showered them with gallons of jet fuel and raised the temperature of the structural beams to about 2,000 degrees. Source

He added that a flame burning jet fuel and air generates an approximate temperature of 3,500 degrees Fahrenheit — "more intense than any fire code scenario." Source

I guess we all just imagined seeing the black smoke coming from the buildings, as it couldn't have possibly happened if the temperature was above 800 degrees, according to you.

It could have taken months, or years; I don't know, but it was done. - Those who have attempted to 'talk' about OKC, where the same thing was done on a smaller scale (trial run?) have either been killed, prosecuted on false charges, or silenced by the shrill screams from the lap-dog media.

You make some very serious charges here about what happened at the World Trade Center, yet the only source you can cite for what you say really happened is: yourself, and your conspiracy theory on Oklahoma City. Please explain to us your proof as to how incindiery devices were planted in the Twin Towers beforehand.

240 posted on 11/02/2001 12:11:26 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: editor-surveyor
Had the temp. risen above 800 degrees, there could not have been any black smoke, as the carbon would have oxidized quickly at that temp.

Within a structure fire, temperatures can vary from normal room temperature to over 2000 degrees F. As a fire burns it uses up the oxygen and the result is a lot of black smoke because not all of the carbon could be oxidized. That doesn't mean that the fire is now burning at less than 800 degrees. It could easily be twice that hot.

Finally, who would be conducting this alleged 'investigation?'

This will be one of the most thouroughly investigated fires in history. A building collapse of this magnitude has never occurred before.

With over 300 firefighters lost in the collapse, fire investigators around the world will want to determine what can be done in the future to allow firefighters to safely and efficiently evacuate people and fight high-rise fires. Engineers and architechs will look at it to determine how the building design and materials could be improved. And new fire codes will be written as a result.

There are hundreds of people sifting through the rubble. Many of those people are trained fire investigators and structural engineers. Cameras were rolling from several different angles when the buildings collapsed. If there were explosives used, there will be evidence that cannot be covered up.

242 posted on 11/02/2001 7:55:29 PM PST by eggman
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