PRES. BUSH MUST HEAR FROM US, NOW! (America Must Not Abandon Israel!)

Capitol Hill Prayer Alert ^ | 10/25/01

[Will]

A little off subject...

Why do so many posts refer to God as G-d? Anyone? Thanks...

[Will]

A little off subject...

Why do so many posts refer to God as G-d? Anyone? Thanks...

[LarryLied]

Thanks for giving the reasons why we should not support Israel.

As if Israel matters. I could care. My concern is my country. You want to help Israel, book a tour there. I hear they are running out of American tourists.

Oh..and just in case you haven't noticed, everything we are doing will help Israel. And that is fine with me.

[Illbay]

"Dear Pres. Bush:

"I support you 100% in your efforts to put American defense and American security FIRST before that of any other country.

"If that means you tell Israel to go to h*ll, then do it.

"If that means you need to warn Egypt and Saudi Arabia--two more 'friends' the 'quality' of which leads us to believe we don't need enemies--that we may soon be persuaded to kick THEM in the *ss, then go to it!

"Above all, Mr. President, let's stop worrying about these erstwhile 'allies' who care only about their parochial concerns and are patently unwilling to see the big picture, which is that without U.S. help their governments would have long ago collapsed and their economies laid in ruins.

"Do not persuaded, sir, either by those who would tell you we need to appease these Arab 'friends,' nor those who tell you we have some sort of 'moral obligation' to continue to prop up that socialist pigpen called Israel.

"Sincerely, your very good friend and fellow Texan,

"Illbay"

[BenF]

Jews are God's chosen people...they're "covered" regardless.

You have it backwards. We are not "G-D's chosen people". We chose G-D, not the other way around. And only those who fulfill their part of the Covenent will reap the rewards. Gentiles have only to fulfill the Noachide laws to benefit. It's a lot easier for you to enter heaven than for me.

[DittoJed2]

Don't call us "Fundys" or extremists. It isn't called for, and is decidedly "unChristian".

[BenF]

Why do so many posts refer to God as G-d? Anyone? Thanks...

It is a mark of respect not to write the Name on anything which will be destroyed.

[Toilet Duck]

I am confused - are you implying Arabs are evil and are not worthy of entering Jerusalem? In addition, why is someone who disagrees with our support of Israel branded "evil"? Israel must come to terms with the fact that Jerusalem is not theirs and never should have been. Muslims, Christians, and Jews should share these holy cities and not allow one religion to dominate or control these lands, despite what your God says. Ask yourself this - What is fair and why is Israel so unwilling to share these sacred places?

[truthandlife]

In the Bible it does tell us to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem.." Psalm 122:6

[BenF]

I respect your beliefs and am sorry you do not extend me the same courtesy.

Have a nice day.

[Illbay]

Yes, s.g., but you see you're talking "that ol' time religion." Most of the New-Age Philosophies of Man Mingled with Scripture that infest FR haven't the slightest notion what you're talking about.

Their ministers long ago fabricated this newfangled "doctrine" so Israeli tourism would abet and promote their "pilgrimages" (for which they charge BIG bucks to act as "shepherds") leading well-healed pious wannabes who think that they can buy their way to heaven by sleeping in one-star hotels and eating off the Continental plan.

Please get some perspective here. Whenever a phase-shift of this magnitude occurs, follow the money.

[Will]

"We gentiles must believe that Jesus Christ is our savior to obtain the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jews are God's chosen people...they're "covered" regardless."

Hmmm... so then would conversion to Judaism gain one this coverage of "the chosen"?

Does anyone know how many convert to Judaism?

Is most of Judaism characterized by the same level of apostasy as most protestant denominations?

Where does Judaism stand on abortion?

Thanks...

[DittoJed2]

Thank you for posting this Truthandlife. It needs to be said. Even if some ignore the message, God will not.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Israel lost it's conditional promise to the land when they committed the awesome act of rejecting their Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. They said let His blood be on their heads. God accepted that and cut them off in A.D. 70. They are no longer God's chosen people and have no more right to the land than you are I do.

And we know this is true because our bibles have a "new testament" in the back of them, and are therefore an organic continuation of the Torah which G-d gave to Israel publicly before some three million people. I mean, if the "new testament" weren't part of the bible, G-d would have never allowed it to be bound with it in chr*stian versions, would he?

Yep--that's the way to prove something: just assert it.

BTW, is there anywhere in the genuine Bible that says the promise was conditional, or do you just "know" it was because later on "the very same bible" says it was meant to be?

Are the Gaelic Irish entitled to their island, or do they, too, not have any more right to it than I do?

[philman_36]

Why do so many posts refer to God as G-d?
Not off subject at all. It is a consonant/vowel thing if you notice. Vowels aren't written, just like in YHWH, depending on teachings, as it means you've used the whole name and it is considered wrong to do so by many.
Probably too short of an explanation, but I'm sure you get the gist of it.

[quebecois]

Pres Bush's sole concern in this matter should be the welfare of the USA. He is the president of our nation, period. He can not, and should not, base his decisions about the lives of Americans on subjective interpretations of ancient religious documents.

[Illbay]

How have the Jewish people survived all their enemies throughout thousands of years without a homeland if their G-D abandoned them?

According to your theory, then, the "Romany" people are also the elect of God, since they claim direct lineage from ancient Roman colonists, and have kept their peculiar language and customs, even while wandering nationless and despised by all in Europe and Central Asia for a couple of thousand years.

So, I guess by your say-so, we need to carve out a strip of territory somewhere for the "Gypsies" and kow-tow to their every economic whim, just like Israel, right?

[DittoJed2]

Will, Don't listen to the words of someone who doesn't understand what support of Israel entails. Israel is NOT covered just because she is God's chosen. All of physical and political Israel will not be saved. All of God's remnant, true Israel, will be saved. Why? The same way anyone else is saved. Through believing in what God's Son, the Jewish Messiah, did on Calvary.

Now, as to support of Israel. God made an eternal promise to Abraham and his seed. He said "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you." The Gentiles were made partakers of that promise at Calvary when they were "grafted in", yet the Bible speaks of physical Israel being very much a focal point during the last days before Messiah returns to reign. Some of Israel will remain lost. Some will be saved. But it is incumbent upon ALL to support her right to exist and her right to live in safety from her neighbors. If that costs taxpayer dollars, so be it. Some things are more important than the almighty buck. The sooner this nation learns that the better off we will be period.

[RCW2001]

socialist pigpen called Israel...

LOL bump...