PRES. BUSH MUST HEAR FROM US, NOW! (America Must Not Abandon Israel!)

Capitol Hill Prayer Alert ^ | 10/25/01

[American Soldier]

I support Isreal because I support civilization and democracy. The religious argument has always puzzled me. Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven? It seems to me that would be more important than any temporal state.

[BenF]

Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven?

I'm Jewish and I want to put your mind at ease. This is the least of your concerns.

[sola gracia]

God's covenant with the Jewish people regarding their inheritance of the land of Israel is one of the most frequently mentioned themes in Holy Scripture.

Israel lost it's conditional promise to the land when they committed the awesome act of rejecting their Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. They said let His blood be on their heads. God accepted that and cut them off in A.D. 70. They are no longer God's chosen people and have no more right to the land than you are I do.

[BenF]

Perhaps it is time for America to abandon Israel. Isn't Israel supposed to stand alone before the Messiah will come?

[Toilet Duck]

Jerusalem is the house for all - not just for Israel. We should abandon Israel and support what is fair and just. If God is merciful and good, he/she would agree.

[sola gracia]

Kind sir, the Messiah has already come. He came in grace and truth the first time. He will come in judgement when He returns the second time.

[dalebert]

Bush will not abandon Israel.

[BenF]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I would like to ask you some questions. How have the Jewish people survived all their enemies throughout thousands of years without a homeland if their G-D abandoned them? If you know the Bible, you will see that the Egyptian experience been replayed over and over again throughout history. Doesn't it frighten you that despite all the persecutions, all the blood spilled at the hands of Christians and others, this tiny, despised people have not only survived, but thrived in every land in the diaspora? If it doesn't frighten you, could it be that you're not as in tune with what G-D wants as you think you are? Does that possibility exist in your mind?

[American Soldier]

I wasn't really stressed about it - I'm a supporter of Israel anyway. I was just making the point that I don't quite buy an argument for this position based on Christian doctrine.

[BenF]

He will come in judgement when He returns the second time.

I understand your beliefs but they are not for me or anyone who belongs to the Covenent. I have no doubt a strong judgement will be visited on the Jewish people. But what of those who persecuted us throughout the centuries? Do you think there will be a judgement of them as well?

[DittoJed2]

The gentiles were GRAFTED INTO the tree, they did not obliterate it. God's promise is ETERNAL, and scripture speaks over and over and over and over and OVER again about a believing remnant of Jews who will look upon him who they have pierced and accept him as Messiah. And so, "ALL ISRAEL" shall be saved.

[BenF]

Jerusalem is the house for all - not just for Israel.

Not true. Jerusalem is the house for all who are decent human beings. And Israel controls it.

We should abandon Israel and support what is fair and just. If God is merciful and good, he/she would agree.

No, you will abandon Israel to support what is evil and unjust. That is your history and, sadly, your destiny.

[Bob Burnett]

Get a grip, fellow. Can't debate you at the bibical map level, but if God could just get the Israelis off the US taxpayer's teat I would be greatly appreciative. Then let them duke it out with the Palestinians using burning bushes. The winner we can call 'the chosen people.' and to them the spoils of war.

[truthandlife]

Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven? It seems to me that would be more important than any temporal state.

You are correct and that is my prayer when I pray for Israel. The Bible says "multitudes, multitudes are in the valley of decision: and whoever calls upon Your name shall be delivered and saved." I pray that Israel will repent and obtain God's mercy and forgiveness through Jesus.

[onyx]

Bush will not abandon Israel.

Just today I watched Colin Powell state "Israel is our best friend." (Hope Tony Blair doesn't get wind of it). :>)

[KJMorgan]

"I don't quite buy an argument for this position based on Christian doctrine."

One extremist branch of Christianity at that. The Fundys don't speak for all Christians, they sure don't speak for this one.

I do support Israel.

[New Horizon]

We gentiles must believe that Jesus Christ is our savior to obtain the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jews are God's chosen people...they're "covered" regardless.

[BenF]

Thanks for the clarification. I hope you weren't offended by my post.

Be well.

[sola gracia]

I understand your beliefs but they are not for me or anyone who belongs to the Covenent.

Salvation can be found in no other name but that of Jesus Christ. If you are not in Christ, you have no place in the Covenant.