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IRA decommissioning statement [Official Full Text]
Guardian ^ | October 23, 2001 | Signed: P O'Neill. [A nom de plume used by the IRA to authenticate its statements]

Posted on 10/24/2001 7:17:43 AM PDT by Sparticle

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To: Bold Fenian
Before I travelled to Ireland, I had never really paid attention to the NI problem. At the time, my understanding that the IRA was simple a PLO for NI. Once arriving there, I realized that the IRA was not alone -- you notice this immediately by all of the paintings on the sides of buildings from the various unionist gangs. I blame myself for inattention, but I blame the press for conveying the wrong impression.

I've since paid more attention, and shall do so in the future. I found Irish people to be some of the nicest people in the world, and I just loved my time there, short as it was. I loved the North as well as the Republic. And I still don't know whether to call it Derry or Londonderry.

62 posted on 10/24/2001 2:20:34 PM PDT by Darth Reagan
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To: Bold Fenian
I knew someone who once worked in the US consulate in Belfast. She called it "Derry Londonderry". Her way of not taking a stand. I think I'll continue to look for your posts in order to follow this issue a little more closely. Thanks for the interesting commentary (of course, I'm reading the Unionist guys too)
65 posted on 10/24/2001 2:46:21 PM PDT by Darth Reagan
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To: Bold Fenian
The Brits won't crack down on the lads doing their dirty work for them. *Blind eye, blind eye*
66 posted on 10/24/2001 7:36:53 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: Bold Fenian
The situation in Northern Ireland has been exacerbated for years by the zealots who dream of the vanquishing of the other community by some apocolyptic violence. The extremists one side of which you support attempt to ensure that any reconciliation or compromise is always marred and the hatred contiues. We see the same scenario in Palestine.

American 'fenians' have quite viciously supported this nonsense. The Democrat Tammany Hall Americans eg Joe Kennedy are the most prominent of Americnans in this. Most of the Fenian musings are moonshine with wildly exaggerated grievances. In the last century one crazy Fenian group tried to invade Canada from the US.

The Orange side deserves harsh criticism too. It must be remembered that Stormont was dissolved and the British Army came in the 1970's to protect the Catholics. The terrorist element wanted to make sure the British Army became the enemy.It succeeded.

I accept that the British may have treated the Easter Rising harshly but you must remember that the rising was carried out with German arms in the middle of the bloodiest battles of the Western Front. A huge number of Irish were fighting on that front. (45,000 volunteered for the British Army in WW2) I am sure the Americans would have treated similar uprisings in America harshly if they had happened in America sponsored by the Japanese and the Germans.

We must try not to be poisoned by old romaticised hatreds. To seek a united Ireland is permissible but recourse to terror is not, The question, which is a fair one, is can you trust terrorists? Would the Americans?

Bold is OK but Blind?

67 posted on 10/24/2001 8:28:01 PM PDT by Ockham
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To: Rockiesrider
I'm sure that the IRA know that they would probably be on the extermination list very soon

As if US soldiers would land on Irish soil to kill Irish citizens. Dream on. Those Irish and Irish decendant firefighters and police who died on 9-11 sure will be spinning in their graves.

68 posted on 10/25/2001 2:16:21 AM PDT by Colosis
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To: Bold Fenian
Ed has his ear very close to the republican ground but it seems maybe too close!!

Can I give you a slightly different perspective. It may or may not be right.

Totally Unarmed Struggle=TUS - NOT TUAS!

TUAS is Tactical Use of Armed Struggle

We saw this very clearly in action during the early 90s. Sinn Fein/IRA continued to bomb targets in London and other cities alongside the negotiations that were going on between London and Dublin civil servants. Republicans were involved in the bombing and the discussions simultaneously.

For example, following the tit-for-tat violence in Belfast in late 1993 Martin and Mitchell met Douglas Hurd in Derry on November 5. Douglas may also have met their loyalist counterparts in Antrim later the same day.

Sir Patrick Mayhew announced in the Commons two weeks later that there had been no meetings between Sinn Fein/IRA and Government officials. Douglas of course was a Government minister.

Moloney's misinterpretation of TUAS may have been based on ignorance or connivance. I don't know which.

69 posted on 10/25/2001 2:34:38 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
Totally Unarmed Struggle=TUS - NOT TUAS!

TUAS is Tactical Use of Armed Struggle

It's only words

And words are all I have

To take this love away

70 posted on 10/25/2001 2:54:22 AM PDT by Colosis
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To: Darth Reagan
Just think of NI as the overlap of two states: UK and Ireland; British and Irish.

The hardmen on either side are the gable wall historians.

The London and Dublin establishments are horrified by the shenanigans but don't really know what to do.

It's also called the Maiden City or Stroke City. The latter has nowt to do with your health; it's the symbol in Londonderry/Derry.

The small habitation in the early 1600s was called Derrie - King James' officials used the Scottish language in the documents, not English. It was later named Londonderrie because the London companies had financed and built what later became the walled city we see now.

Partial historians such as Bold Fenian curiously enough use the English form of the name: Derry!

71 posted on 10/25/2001 2:56:17 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Bold Fenian
If you read An Phoblacht/Republican News you'll see that the Adams family blamed US foreign policy for the tragedy of 9/11.

Ambassador Egan was daft enough to go to their terrorist convention in Dublin after 9/11 without clearing the matter with Haass

No doubt Egan got his ass kicked and McGuinness had to eat a lot of American Humble Pie.

You will probably have noted that decommissioning was agreed - maybe even done - before he met Haass to do some ceremonial boot-licking. Haass will need to continue kicking ass until he is satisfied that the Adams family have got the message.

72 posted on 10/25/2001 3:07:02 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Bold Fenian
Quite a few non-Catholics, resident and non-resident, also call the city on the Foyle: Derry. The loyal orders even sing a song called Derry's Walls.
73 posted on 10/25/2001 3:09:54 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
Kiss my royal Irish ass!!
74 posted on 10/25/2001 3:10:48 AM PDT by Colosis
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To: constitutiongirl
The lads, loyalist and republican, do their own dirty work and the Secretariat of London and Dublin officials who've controlled public safety since 1985 often turn a blind eye.

It's let us with a very sorry state of affairs - a bit like the Mafia in the USA or the movie version of the lawless Wild West.

75 posted on 10/25/2001 3:15:28 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Colosis
I suppose if you imagine the Real IRA as an Hispanic title the translation would be Royal IRA!!

Contributors to the semi-literate Dissenter refer to Martin McGuinness as Her Majesty's Minister of Education!!

76 posted on 10/25/2001 3:18:44 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
a bit like the Mafia in the USA or the movie version of the lawless Wild West.

Thats funny, I've never seen Al Capone or John Wayne throwing dog shite and blast bombs at little girls going to school.

77 posted on 10/25/2001 3:18:46 AM PDT by Colosis
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To: Colosis
TUAS was spelt out a few months ago as the Sinn Fein/IRA 'violence and negotiation' strategy.

Brian Keenan, reputedly the IRA's chief of staff "The revolution can never be over...until we have British imperialism where it belongs, in the dustbin of history"

Keenan referred to TUAS on February 25, 2001.

78 posted on 10/25/2001 3:29:32 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Colosis
I was thinking of the other activities indulged in by the loyalist and republican thugs!!
79 posted on 10/25/2001 3:32:36 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Colosis
Why do you appear to condone terrorism after 9/11?

There is nothing very funny about 'crucifixion' or 'mixed grill'. Did the Mafia descend to this level of depravity?

80 posted on 10/25/2001 3:36:56 AM PDT by Norn Iron
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