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Thanks for confirming what I thought to be true. I have listened extensively to Arnold Murray myself, my husband more so. It's made for some long and interesting conversations. By the way, the first part of your paragraph decribed my man to a tee. :)

The debate I cannot get around is the consistency of the bible pointing to an event "and" then restating it in more detail against the eighth day creation. Knowing one way or the other may not be the end all be all when it comes to salvation in Jesus Christ, but it sure would be helpful in identifying the major players and their roles.

Also, why wouldn't Jewish Rabbis & scholars acknowledge this interpretation of Genisis. Don't they understand even better the language and customs of that day?

Yeah, I have a lot of regrets. I've always enjoyed debating politics and this kind of stuff. Before I learned what the bible really said I would debate Christians, about like OWK does here. Luckily for me it wasn't public though, it was just with a few friends at parties. Of course I took the agnostic/atheist side so I was dead wrong on a lot of things. Once I learned that the bible is written with more genius than I had thought and that it was true, I tried to make up for it with them.

The debate I cannot get around is the consistency of the bible pointing to an event "and" then restating it in more detail against the eighth day creation. Knowing one way or the other may not be the end all be all when it comes to salvation in Jesus Christ, but it sure would be helpful in identifying the major players and their roles.

Yeah, Genesis is very interesting on a lot of levels. It speaks of the waters being here and the waters being there, two creations of light, the mist vs the rain. It may point to a much more complex structure of the earth than what science has claimed.

Also, why wouldn't Jewish Rabbis & scholars acknowledge this interpretation of Genisis. Don't they understand even better the language and customs of that day?

I think we have the advantage of scientific observation. As we understand more and more of the physical universe, we have a need to look deeper into Genesis to see what it really says. The old Rabbis read Genesis, and being that they didn't even understand things like basic science, saw the world as being so mysterious that to believe that the earth was only a few thousand years old made no difference to them. As we understand more and more, it causes us to look further and further into the Word to see what's going on.

Also, why wouldn't Jewish Rabbis & scholars acknowledge this interpretation of Genisis. Don't they understand even better the language and customs of that day?

Looks like I misunderstood your question. Good question, I don't know why the Rabbis who understand Hebrew wouldn't interpret a sixth day creation with Adam created on the eighth day. Maybe for the same reason most American preachers don't, because they don't look hard enough. Since we outnumber them exponentially, maybe the odds are that someone here would figure it out first. After all, there is very few Christians that look into it closely. Most still believe the apple story.