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To: #3Fan
God hated Esua while he was still in the womb.

Irrational.

God is a loving God.

God created all men.

God created Esau.

God hated Esau, before he was even born.

God judges men without merit.

That means Esau did something in the first age that God was angry about.

Irrational.

Why didn't God judge him then?

Plus there was a larger purpose to what Joshua did, the people Joshua was conquering were hybrids of the supernatural fallen angels. They had to be destroyed so this test age could continue in the manner God wanted it to continue. That means just flesh, not supermen.

Ah yes... the ole "they were monsters" excuse.

(only it doesn't fit with the Bible's description of events at all)

520 posted on 11/17/2003 1:55:02 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
Irrational. God is a loving God. God created all men. God created Esau. God hated Esau, before he was even born. God judges men without merit.

We all lived in the first age. We did things there that either made God love us or hate us. God did run Esau through this age so maybe Esau was saved.

Irrational.

Very rational. If a person does something against you, you hate that person.

Why didn't God judge him then?

Because he gave everyone a chance in this age or the millenium. Perhaps Esau has been saved.

Ah yes... the ole "they were monsters" excuse.

They were.

(only it doesn't fit with the Bible's description of events at all)

The bible speaks of the nefilim.

522 posted on 11/17/2003 2:04:41 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: OWK
God hated Esau, before he was even born.

Your Biblical ignorance shows. Esau is a reference to the nation of Edom which descended from Esau. The nation of Edom chose to disobey God and was even direct military enemies of the nation of Israel. The entire book of Obadiah is knock against the Edomites.

You have a very arrogant attitude about God. You better check yourself, His mercy may run out on you soon. You need to repent of your sin and turn to the only hope of eternal life: Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

544 posted on 01/26/2004 2:17:50 PM PST by God is good (Till we meet in the golden city of the New Jerusalem, peace to my brothers and sisters.)
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