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To: AmishDude
The question addresses the statistical likelihood of one's faith.

It is very clear (to all but the most delusional of observers) that the indoctrination of one's youth determines the likely faith of one's adult life. That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions (nor did I suggest otherwise).

My point is that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of those standing in defense of the "truth" of Christianity on this thread, being the same ones standing in defense of the "truth" of Islam had they been born elsewhere.

Why would anyone of sound mind seek to deny this?

44 posted on 10/23/2001 11:00:52 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Seriously, I'm trying to help you out here. Truth is not relative!! You've obviously been deeply indoctrinated in postliberal deconstruction, cultural relativism, etc. It's scares me.

Check out some good intellectual debunking of false philosophies and religions HERE

57 posted on 10/23/2001 11:19:20 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: OWK
How not to make friends and influence people, by OWK

  1. . . . (to all but the most delusional of observers) . . .
    State that all who may dare oppose you have some form of mental illness.
  2. . . . That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions (nor did I suggest otherwise) . . .
    Lie about what you said: "And had you been born in . . . Afghanistan, you would now be attempting to convince me . . ."
  3. . . . My point is . . .
    Use the phrases "my point is" or "my point was". If we didn't get it the first time, you are not very good at communicating your thoughts.
  4. . . . that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor . . .
    Lie a second time: "odds" had never been mentioned before.
  5. . . . of those standing in defense . . .
    Tell a subset of us who we are or what we believe. It is the disruptor who uses the phrase "freepers here are all . . .".
  6. . . . Why would anyone of sound mind seek to deny this?
    Make assertions of mental illness a second time.
  7. . . . And, of course
    Make impossible and nonsensical hypotheticals to "prove" a point.

58 posted on 10/23/2001 11:23:29 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: OWK
It is very clear (to all but the most delusional of observers)

Offering the delusion of dissidents as proof of the veracity of one's claims is no proof. One could say it is even less a point and more a refutation of itself... What do I offer as proof of my claims? Your question would probably be. Well, if taken literally, your statement would imply that only the most delusional would disagree with you, thereby leaving the merely delusional in complete agreement. Are you saying that people who see things the way you do are delusional? I really don't think you meant that, which demonstrates you aren't really thinking while you type, just spewing. Try again.

61 posted on 10/23/2001 11:28:25 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: OWK
Why would anyone of sound mind seek to deny this?

OWK, you make a valid point; however, that certainly doesn't make Christianity the wrong one, does it? Wouldn't you agree that's is certainly possible that we will ultimately be judged by a soveriegn God? Whether or not I/you want to acknowledge it....it is possible, is it not? regardless of history's ebb and flow...or where we were born, etc

67 posted on 10/23/2001 11:45:07 AM PDT by discontinue
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To: OWK
My point is that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of those standing in defense of the "truth" of Christianity on this thread, being the same ones standing in defense of the "truth" of Islam had they been born elsewhere.

That may be true for the average citizen of the world, but it's not true for Freepers. Freepers tend to be more interested in deeper truth. If we weren't, we'd take the easy way out and be liberals.

193 posted on 10/24/2001 4:36:38 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: OWK
If you consider geographical location to be a prime indicator as to what religion a person adheres to, then you have a point. But, you are considering mere religion. Those of us who are Christians are not religious.

Let me state that again, those of us who are regenerated, blood-bought, blood-washed Christians are not religious.

Ours is a relationship with the Son of God, and that relationship was revealed by the Holy Spirit.

The term "religion" sums up theocratic definitions, so it is correct to say that Christianity is a religion. But it is so much more than that.

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. Therefore, once the Gospel has been preached, without respect to geographical positioning, a person becomes converted (i.e. redeemed) once the Holy Spirit quickens that person's spirit so that he can "see" the truth of the Gospel. This regeneration brings confession, repentance, and acceptance of the Sacrifice that allows one to have a personal relationship with God through his revealed Word, Jesus Christ.

Once regeneration and redemption has been completed, the believer doesn't need any type of "religion" whatsoever, therefore, true Christians are not "religious."

You can rail against religion all you want. God Himself knows that He is not welcome in most "religious" institutions.

283 posted on 10/24/2001 8:47:51 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: OWK
My point is that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of those standing in defense of the "truth" of Christianity on this thread, being the same ones standing in defense of the "truth" of Islam had they been born elsewhere.

There is obviously some truth in what you are saying. But just because 5 people are wrong, doesn't mean the 6th person isn't right. Keep an open mind is all I can say.

495 posted on 11/12/2003 7:13:50 AM PST by cmak9
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