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Sprayed Towboat Relased from Quarantine, EPA holding release of crop duster tests
CBS 12 WJTV Jackson, Mississippi ^ | October 22, 2001 | Darren Dedo

Posted on 10/22/2001 1:26:13 PM PDT by umbra

A Mississippi River towboat that was sprayed with an unknown substane by a crop duster has been released from quarantine.

The towobat and crew of 11 were released at 12 a.m. this morning. The towboat and its 17 barges of coal are again streming towards their destination of Tampa, Florida. The towboat had been quarantined since Friday afternoon.

A Mid South towing spokeswoman says that investigations by the EPA and the Mississppi Department of Agriculture have been completed. The results of the investigation have yet to be published.

Law enforcement agencies are still searching for the cropduster and a pleasure boat the plane also sprayed.


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To: angkor
perhaps an hour or two alone with the people he sprayed.

Send him to the FBI, they are still "considering" the people's justice.

Chain them to a lamp post on a busy street corner, wearing signs that say that they were caught spraying people with something. Hoax or not, I bet a few people would dispense some form of justice.

41 posted on 10/22/2001 3:39:25 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: narby
news said it sprayed the tug, came around, and then sprayed the pleasure boat. My question is, how the hell, with all the crop duster hysteria going on, and the missing crop duster from Florida, etc., does the government not know who this was and what plane? You'd think they'd have every cropduster in this country under close scrutiny, and would be able to pinpoint who this idiot was with relative ease. Apparently not. Sounds to me like somebody dropped the ball bigtime, whether this turns out to be anything or not. Even if it wasn't terrorists, what if it had been? They caught somebody sleeping on the job.
42 posted on 10/22/2001 3:44:32 PM PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: umbra
I have to believe there are some flight rules that prevent this stuff from happening after Sept. 11

Last I heard, every cropduster takeoff in the U.S. had to be pre-approved by the FAA. That may have changed, and even if it hasn't, I have very little confidence that it has been competently enforced.

MM

43 posted on 10/22/2001 4:01:52 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Hodar
So, hypothetically, if I were witnessing this, and I emptied 2 clips from my 9mm into the plane, causing it to crash (killing the pilot) how long would I spend in jail?

I'd say not long, since your 9mm would not likely have much effect; the pilot probably wouldn't even notice. On my boat, I carry a semi auto .30'06 and a 12 guage. Much more effective.

44 posted on 10/22/2001 5:07:41 PM PDT by Chuckster
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To: umbra
Ooh, does this story make my blood boil! My great-grandfather and his brothers operated the largest towboat line on the Upper Mississippi River in the late 19th Century. Grrrrr!
45 posted on 10/22/2001 5:15:33 PM PDT by buickmackane
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To: umbra
I have to believe there are some flight rules that prevent this stuff from happening after Sept. 11

Actually there are rules on the books now ,and have been for a long time, that prohibit dropping anything from a plane that could cause property damage or personal injury to anyone on the ground and I guess spraying would be just as applicable. This would be a violation of FAA rules and would get your flying certificate yanked and probably permantly. I am sure that this would also be criminal too and likely a federal offense at that.

I dont know what this planes altitude was but there are also rules about how high you have to be to fly over water craft and populated areas.

I wonder if there are unknown chemical or bio agents that no one knows about right now? If you dont know what you are looking for, how do you test for it?

Maybe the missing AG plane from Florida just showed up!

46 posted on 10/22/2001 5:19:44 PM PDT by backtobasics
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To: umbra
hmm
47 posted on 10/22/2001 5:25:09 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Hodar
So, hypothetically, if I were witnessing this, and I emptied 2 clips from my 9mm into the plane, causing it to crash (killing the pilot) how long would I spend in jail?

Don't know, two clips would be mighty excessive, especialy considering you'd be doing real well to get a couple/three shots off, the rest would just be reckless endangerment of anybody downrange. :) Suggest using something with more power, M1A or other .308 would be best, AK/SKS would be OK as would AR-15 or other .223. Even a 12 gauge, with 9-12 pellets of 00 Buck per shot would be a better choice. In fact since shotguns are designed for shooting at flying targets, this would seem ideal. Never mind Patton shooting down that Nazi airplane with his 1911, you'd be better off with a shoulder fired weapon.

48 posted on 10/22/2001 5:36:10 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: gold
I'm not sure of the normal incidence of crop dusting buzzes, but I personally have experienced the naval buzzing a number of times. Let's just assume this jerk was showboating and will pay the price for it.

I assume the Navy aircraft don't actually drop anything on you, nor shoot at you. This bozo did drop/spray something on both the barges/tug, and the pleasure boat.

49 posted on 10/22/2001 5:39:04 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: umbra
Law enforcement agencies are still searching for the cropduster and a pleasure boat the plane also sprayed.

This was on cnn earlier today. The report of the low flying cropduster was on CNN this morning. Good luck finding it.

50 posted on 10/22/2001 5:40:05 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: TheLurkerX
I hope this wasn't left up to the local yokels. Heightened awareness should have resulted in some coordination with other agencies. Think I'll ask them. Area 4 for EPA lists an email contact as couch.jim@epa.gov.
51 posted on 10/22/2001 5:42:08 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair
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To: ambrose
You're right, the government would NEVER do something foolish like that.

Oh, boo hoo hoo! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!

52 posted on 10/22/2001 6:28:41 PM PDT by Coop
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To: umbra
I think what happened is that this guy was busy doing his job and upon turning around to do the next row noticed that the pleasure boat had a naked female sunbathing on the deck.

He got so excited he turned the spray on too soon. And then he had to go back for a second look and sprayed the barge.

Let's not be paranoid people.

53 posted on 10/22/2001 6:41:33 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: MinuteGal
Perhaps the question can a farmer have a cropduster in an outbuilding and would he necessarily file a flight plan just to go over his own property. I thought all cropdusters were grounded or did they lift that? Otherwise, I don't understand why it's taking so long to find the plane.
54 posted on 10/22/2001 6:41:46 PM PDT by skr
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To: Bommer
Sort of like salt water
55 posted on 10/22/2001 8:06:59 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: narby; umbra
I work with these crop duster guys for a living. I'll bet they had extra chemical, and rather than land with it and deal with the EPA regulations on getting rid of it, they just sprayed it in the river.

Probably been doing for decades, but nobody cared before.

I don't know where you find "these crop duster guys" you claim to work with but with the kind of behavior you suggest not one of them would have kept his "seat" for ten minutes with any agricultural aviation I have ever associated with, loaded for, flown with, been chief pilot for, managed and/or owned in the 52 years I have been around the industry!

They'd have been packed off to the airlines with all of the other erks who can't fly!

Keep in mind, its a very hard process to load the precise amount of chemical so that you run out right at the end of the field with nothing left to spray.

Rubbish. Even before modern equipment including precisely-accurate ground-loading and aircraft-mounted spray flow meters, precise GPS spray-run "marking" and Million-Dollar modern aircraft it was a piece of cake for a capable pilot to end the last run with an empty tank!

This'll turn out to have been an hysterical over-reaction to the whiff of a bit of drift -- probably only the smell -- defoliant stinks! -- from an ag pilot simply doing his job in a field as the boats went by.

More than one run "at them?" Of course. The airplane sprays a limited swathe and has to go up and down some fields a hundred times or more!

56 posted on 10/22/2001 8:32:54 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: texlok
Good point:

Kinda does make you wonder, after all didn't they go around the country looking at all the cropdusters/owners? Surely they'd at least have some bit of an idea since the range on those aren't exactly all that long, plus they had to have come into contact with some kind of air traffic control, unless they did this very locally (by that I mean took off a mile or two away, did it, and landed at the same place or close by).

57 posted on 10/22/2001 8:41:22 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Coop
I think the fact that they released the boat, cargo and crew is a pretty good indication that there is no biological threat

Then why search for pleasure boat ?

58 posted on 10/22/2001 8:41:31 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: narby
Just suppose that a crop duster plane is stolen from its owner by a terrorist. Knowing that the plane still contains crop dusting chemicals of some sort, he decides to "kill two birds with one stone". Ergo, he dumps the load on any vessel in the area, then goes to his base and reloads the plane with his own chemicals.

I don't believe this is what happened, but, what if? It is possible isn't it?

Didn't know until this post that the barges were transporting coal. I'm relieved that the loads weren't grain or seed.

59 posted on 10/22/2001 9:11:25 PM PDT by Dixielander
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To: umbra
Here's the initial article from the 20th: Miss. Probes Crop Duster Sprayings
60 posted on 10/22/2001 9:16:33 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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