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To: JeepInMazar; Squantos; harpseal; gatex; 300winmag; SevenDaysInMay; nunya bidness; wardaddy...
Of course there is a screaming crying need to "militarize" our borders, but our lily-livered fedgfov will not get the cojones to do so until after about five more 9-11 level events.

If we the citizens tried to assert our own natural right to defend our homeland as an "unorganized milita" (since the fedgov does not seem to want to), you would see the sky darkened with helicopters bringing in 100s of JBTs to crush the nascent "right wing militia gun nut racists".

This nation seems bent on national suicide.

No matter how many bombs we drop on Afghanistan, we will lose the war right here at home if the fedgov will not get a backbone and a survival instinct.

8 posted on 10/18/2001 11:28:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the heads up, but I beat you this time....see my post # 5.
9 posted on 10/18/2001 11:46:00 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: Travis McGee
If we the citizens tried to assert our own natural right to defend our homeland as an "unorganized milita" (since the fedgov does not seem to want to), you would see the sky darkened with helicopters bringing in 100s of JBTs to crush the nascent "right wing militia gun nut racists".

I was thinking that if people could coordinate things with the farmers and landowners along the border, maybe individual citizens could volunteer a week at a time to go down there and patrol. I would think that in light of current events there would be enough of a response to scare the living daylights out of these illegal immigrants: a bunch of armed angry Americans patroling the border.

12 posted on 10/19/2001 12:11:55 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: Travis McGee; JeepInMazar
I do not claim to know how many more attrocities on American citizens it will take before we institute real border control. I remember when I jhad the boat in Canada and sought to clear American Customs on returning. They did not even want to have me check in at a Customs station. I could have had a nuke aboard and they did not even ask me to stop by. There used to be a canadian border station where when entering from Canada between 6:00 PM and 6:00 AM the INS/Customs check consisted of a sign telling the person to make a phone call if they had anything to declare.

Clearly any citizen militia would be hunted down far more ruthlessly than the WTC/Pentagon/Flt 93 conspirators. It will not change as long as we listen to the Politically Correct crowd. When one is wedded to real estate the first thing one must do is establisgh a perimeter defence. We are not yet doing that and we will pay a major price with a whole lot more dead Americans.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

19 posted on 10/19/2001 6:22:24 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Travis McGee
This nation seems bent on national suicide.

No matter how many bombs we drop on Afghanistan, we will lose the war right here at home if the fedgov will not get a backbone and a survival instinct.

This needs repeating!
25 posted on 10/19/2001 7:00:03 AM PDT by mor40
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To: Travis McGee
Travis , I have become so angry over the reappearance of our usual softness and weakness in the form of the State Dept. and some in our media that i have become discouraged to the point that I fear we may have to be totally knocked to our knees in order to rise to the occasion necessary. I watched Cheney last night and I know Bush is preaching to a foreign audience but I truly fear that while their hearts are in the right place that their public relations campaign for what it's worth is going to ultimately be counter-productive.

I will say this. Here in the South most folks ...black and white are more motivated for total war than I fear our leaders (sans Rumsfeld) are at this point. Imagine....our leaders being propelled towards serious war effort by an angry and vengeful populace. That's how I see it from here. We won't have to be dragged kicking and screaming to this one.

Regards and thanks for the flag.

38 posted on 10/19/2001 10:00:07 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
Of course there is a screaming crying need to "militarize" our borders, but our lily-livered fedgfov will not get the cojones to do so until after about five more 9-11 level events.

PC above all. Diversity is our strength.

61 posted on 10/19/2001 12:37:06 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the flag.

Both borders need to be secured. Otherwise we will have a fifth column amongst us. (If not already)

5.56mm

66 posted on 10/19/2001 2:03:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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