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What really happened on Flight 93?
Enter Stage Right - A Journal of Modern Conservatism ^ | October 17, 2001 | Stuart Buck

Posted on 10/17/2001 10:40:58 AM PDT by gordgekko

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1 posted on 10/17/2001 10:40:58 AM PDT by gordgekko (editor@enterstageright.com)
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2 posted on 10/17/2001 10:43:03 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: gordgekko
The size of the area blocked off and lack of any film footage from the site has to raise some doubts about the story. Any way you look at it the people on the flight are still heros.
3 posted on 10/17/2001 10:49:50 AM PDT by steve50
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I remember reading the same article about hearing an explosion and seeing white smoke. But I also saw on CNN an eyewitness account of the crash of Flight 93 and he said that the plane appeared mechanicly sound. And that it made now strange noises it just came real low like it was going to land and just crashed. I only saw that report once right after the crash but I've never seen this account anywhere else.
4 posted on 10/17/2001 10:50:12 AM PDT by seabass1
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To: gordgekko
Isn't a plane that is struck in flight or that has a bomb go off while in flight likely to break-up with debris falling over a large area?
Remember the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie?
That debris was spread over a very large area.
The hole in the ground from Flight 93 looked like one intact plane struck the ground.
5 posted on 10/17/2001 10:50:41 AM PDT by leadpencil1
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I love the constant claims that the author is not a conspiracy theorist, as he very suggestively launches a conspiracy theory.
6 posted on 10/17/2001 10:54:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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Isn't a plane that is struck in flight or that has a bomb go off while in flight likely to break-up with debris falling over a large area?

I'm no expert, but if the plane was shot down by heat-seeking missiles, they could take off a wing and leave the fuselage intact which would make a pretty big hole in the ground.

7 posted on 10/17/2001 10:57:50 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: babble-on
I love the constant claims that the author is not a conspiracy theorist, as he very suggestively launches a conspiracy theory.

"Thats not a tinfoil hat, its reflective mylar, to ward off migraines.."

8 posted on 10/17/2001 10:58:35 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: gordgekko
I wrote an article about a news event with the PA State Police and FBI where they announced a few days after the 11th that they had found a debris field a several hundred yards away. Some aviation 'experts' then posted some replies stating that it probably broke up due to G-Forces. Made sense, if you didn't take into acccount that several of the witnesses have stated they saw the plane in tact several hundred feet up, and not going particularly 'fast'.
9 posted on 10/17/2001 10:58:56 AM PDT by Ask_Y_First
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Here is a previous thread generated by the same article. Some replies provide further details concerning the distribution of wreckage and eye-witness accounts of the crash.

Previous Thread

10 posted on 10/17/2001 10:59:09 AM PDT by Aurelius
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If Beamer and the boys brought down the plane they are heroes!

If a pilot helped by firing a missle at the plane he's a hero also ,add his name to the list!

11 posted on 10/17/2001 10:59:51 AM PDT by mdittmar
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I was listening to the radio during the incident and heared multiple people call in from PA stating that they witnessed two low flying jets in the area subsequent to the plane going down. I have held since then that the plane was shot down. There was absolutley NO footage of the wreckage on TV or in the news. Seems a bit strange to me.
12 posted on 10/17/2001 11:01:45 AM PDT by michaelje
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"When fact becomes legend....print the legend."

Heroes.....end of story.

13 posted on 10/17/2001 11:02:38 AM PDT by eddie willers
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Either way they are all heros. The people on the plane, whether the brought it down, or if they lost their lives because the plane was shot down, they sacrficed themselves for us. Heros any way you cut it.
14 posted on 10/17/2001 11:03:18 AM PDT by michaelje
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I remember hearing a report that a stewardess aboard the plane was boiling water to toss on the hijackers when the passengers rushed the cockpit. If she was successful, then hot water may have splashed all over the controls, too - which could cause smoke and snapping, popping noises in the plane.
15 posted on 10/17/2001 11:04:28 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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Good points. Hopefully there's reasonable non-missle explanations to them.

Can anyone believe that the same government that hid the truth about flight 800 would admit to shooting down a plane right when the passengers were trying to take it over? Of course not.

16 posted on 10/17/2001 11:05:07 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: mdittmar
Do the engines make a noise if they flameout?
17 posted on 10/17/2001 11:06:27 AM PDT by null and void
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To: babble-on
A conspiracy theorist, as common usage goes, is someone who sees conspiracies everywhere. One who merely questions, on credible evidence, whether a particular event resulted from a conspiracy, doesn't necessarily fit that bill.

On the other hand, since government itself is essentially a conspiracy (to defraud and deceive), it shouldn't be surprising that we find conspiracy theorists in abundance; they might also be called realists.

18 posted on 10/17/2001 11:06:50 AM PDT by Aurelius
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I also remember a local newspaper reporting that wreckage was found as much as 8 miles away from the crash site. Did anyone else remember this?
19 posted on 10/17/2001 11:06:54 AM PDT by M. Peach
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To: babble-on
The cover ups and loss of credibility by the fbi over the last 8 years fuels the conspiracy theories.
20 posted on 10/17/2001 11:07:00 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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