Breaking: Text of H.R. 3076- September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001

Thomas ^ | 10/16/2001 | Ron Paul

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

=] I hope that is the reason anyway. Good night and God bless America! God bless Ron Paul, too. He's a patriot through and through.

[KingKongCobra]

How many more would die daily if the mility did not exist? Would private security forces be better? Not!

[JAWs]

Avast ye scurvy terrorists!

BTW, didn't the Hauge convention ban privateering?

[MadameAxe]

I did, but missed the second link. Reviewing it, I still don't see the part that supports your claim that it outlaws letters of marque and reprisal. Privateers are not "militia" nor are they "volunteer corps". They are on their own.

[FreeReign]

I don't know if he does or not. The question is do the people support the bill? And will he see it as a tool he can use to help himself look good in the end? My guess is that both answers will be affirmative after enough debate and activism on the issue.

You think a commander in chief should use focus groups and polling info to micromanage a war effort -- I don't. You -- and Paul -- think that the legislative body should micro manage a war effort for the commander in chief -- I don't.

I don't see any clear reason to support this resolution. Thus if the commander in chief does not support it, then I don't.

[FreeReign]

So then Carbon, just because something is controlled by the gov't, that makes it bad.

Besides take our money, and create more laws and restrictions on our liberties, what does the Federal gov't do more efficiantly than the private sector?

The Federal gov't more efficiently creates, maintains, executes and enforces our constitution. The private sector -- without government -- is anarchy.

[Dog Gone]

You can't have it both ways. Either they are on their own, or they have government authority to act.

If they are on their own, then there's no need for Marque and Reprisal.

[MadameAxe]

It's the difference between hiring an employee and contracting for a service. The contractor does not become the government's employee.

BTW, no one I know of is suggesting that this bill be a replacement for military action but rather a complementary measure (although I haven't had time to completely review this thread). I don't know why some of you are having such a problem with it.

And now, I must away for the evening. Regards.

[Freebird Forever]

but I'm talking about this giving us the ability to hire local talent to plug the gaps in our own operations.

Exactly.

Just the thought of the US being able to send some "Indian Cobras" down the "rat tunnels" could persuade the Pakis to see things more along our lines.

[DuncanWaring]

The law that says you can't smoke marijuana.

This law is unconstitutional. Where in the Constitution is the Federal Govt. given power to regulate the smoking of marijuana or anything else?

A constitutional amendment (the Eighteenth, you may recall) was required to give the feds the power to regulate possession/consumption of alcohol. Why should other "consumables" be different?

[Old Student]

these are the same type of letters as were issued to the privateers that defended our coast until the nascent U.S. Navy came online. They authorize the bearer to attack enemy-flagged vessels wherever they may be found.

I wonder if I could get one? I don't have a lot of money to post as bond, but I have my life, liberty, and sacred honor...

WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.) Old Student

[Demidog]

Anyone who is a target is fair game everywhere. Thus the answer is yes, you could target Bin Laden's associates here. It is less likely that you would get there before law enforcement but you might.

The thing is, you could keep any assets that you obtained in the process subject to a court approval. It's a lucrative business. How about hackers going after bin Laden's bank accounts? Think that might put a damper on his terrorist acts? I do.

Letters were "shall issue" documents but were dependent on a bond being presented. This generally kept the privateers honest. If you targetted the wrong person, the government more than likely could get sued. So your bond would cover the cost of that litigation and any damages.

[Demidog]

Lots of BAD ideas are permissible, too.

It's called freedom. If you don't like it, there are other countries that will be more than happy to oblige you in whatever self-flaggelating fantasy you happen to entertain.

[rainingred]

Any law that is Constitutional is not stupid? I don't think so. There are plenty of stupid Constitutional laws.

A lot of things are Constitutional and still stupid.

Name One?

Thanks Demidog, that was exactly my reply. Sorry I had to desert you, but kids and homework got in the way. It appears you don't need my help anyway.

[moonhawk]

"Nothing in the Constitution prohibits standing armies."

(section 8)"The Congress shall have power......To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two years;..."