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To: angelo
LOL! Okay, so is telling your wife she looks beautiful even if she looks like a wreck after chasing the kids around all day a sin?

Are you kidding me? Those are some of the times when she looks the most beautiful to me.

I know where you are going with this. I wouldn't feel like those lies were a sin, but I can't go by my feelings I have to go by what God says. Is there anyplace in the Bible, your half or my half ;^), where God condones someone lying, even if it is for a good purpose. BTW, silence does not equal condoning.

-ksen

37,200 posted on 03/27/2002 11:19:18 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
Is there anyplace in the Bible, your half or my half ;^), where God condones someone lying, even if it is for a good purpose. BTW, silence does not equal condoning.

1 Kings 22;19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. 20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. 21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. 22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persude him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

37,204 posted on 03/27/2002 11:31:15 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: ksen
Is there anyplace in the Bible, your half or my half ;^), where God condones someone lying, even if it is for a good purpose.

And behold, the LORD stood above it and said, "I am the LORD, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and to your descendants (Genesis 28:13)

;o)

Seriously,

So the king of Egypt called the midwives, and said to them, "Why have you done this, and let the male children live?"
The midwives said to Pharaoh, "Because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women; for they are vigorous and are delivered before the midwife comes to them."
So God dealt well with the midwives; and the people multiplied and grew very strong. (Exodus 1:18-20)

And when the Syrians came down against him, Eli'sha prayed to the LORD, and said, "Strike this people, I pray thee, with blindness." So he struck them with blindness in accordance with the prayer of Eli'sha.
And Eli'sha said to them, "This is not the way, and this is not the city; follow me, and I will bring you to the man whom you seek." And he led them to Sama'ria.
As soon as they entered Sama'ria, Eli'sha said, "O LORD, open the eyes of these men, that they may see." So the LORD opened their eyes, and they saw; and lo, they were in the midst of Sama'ria.
When the king of Israel saw them he said to Eli'sha, "My father, shall I slay them? Shall I slay them?"
He answered, "You shall not slay them. Would you slay those whom you have taken captive with your sword and with your bow? Set bread and water before them, that they may eat and drink and go to their master."
So he prepared for them a great feast; and when they had eaten and drunk, he sent them away, and they went to their master. And the Syrians came no more on raids into the land of Israel. (2 Kings 6:18-23)

And Ja'el came out to meet Sis'era, and said to him, "Turn aside, my lord, turn aside to me; have no fear." So he turned aside to her into the tent, and she covered him with a rug.
And he said to her, "Pray, give me a little water to drink; for I am thirsty." So she opened a skin of milk and gave him a drink and covered him.
And he said to her, "Stand at the door of the tent, and if any man comes and asks you, `Is any one here?' say, No."
But Ja'el the wife of Heber took a tent peg, and took a hammer in her hand, and went softly to him and drove the peg into his temple, till it went down into the ground, as he was lying fast asleep from weariness. So he died.
And behold, as Barak pursued Sis'era, Ja'el went out to meet him, and said to him, "Come, and I will show you the man whom you are seeking." So he went in to her tent; and there lay Sis'era dead, with the tent peg in his temple...
Most blessed of women be Ja'el,
the wife of Heber the Ken'ite,
of tent-dwelling women most blessed.
He asked water and she gave him milk,
she brought him curds in a lordly bowl.
She put her hand to the tent peg
and her right hand to the workmen's mallet;
she struck Sis'era a blow,
she crushed his head,
she shattered and pierced his temple. (Judges 4:18-23, 5:24-26)

And they will hearken to your voice; and you and the elders of Israel shall go to the king of Egypt and say to him, `The LORD, the God of the Hebrews, has met with us; and now, we pray you, let us go a three days' journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the LORD our God.' (Exodus 3:18)

And Samuel said, "How can I go? If Saul hears it, he will kill me." And the LORD said, "Take a heifer with you, and say, `I have come to sacrifice to the LORD.' (1 Samuel 16:2)

Now the Jews' feast of Tabernacles was at hand.
So his brothers said to him, "Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples may see the works you are doing.
For no man works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world."
For even his brothers did not believe in him.
Jesus said to them, "My time has not yet come, but your time is always here.
The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I
testify of it that its works are evil.
Go to the feast yourselves; I am not going up to this
feast, for my time has not yet fully come."
So saying, he remained in Galilee.
But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he
also went up, not publicly but in private. (John 7:2-10)

And in the same way was not also Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? (James 2:25)

37,213 posted on 03/27/2002 12:04:46 PM PST by malakhi
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