U.S. CITIZEN WANTS TO JOIN JIHAD AGAINST AMERICA

New York Post ^ | 10/15/01 | JOHN LEHMANN

[CaliforniaDreamer]

Obviously we need to get him to Afghanistan ASAP for his own safety and emotional wellbeing.

[Travis McGee]

I think that in islam lobsters are considered "unclean", so feeding him to lobsters would turn him into unclean creatures, and unclean creature waste.

I don't think allah will give him much consideration when he show up in those two forms.

[Star Traveler]

I won't debate the issue with him since he tore down the American Flag I had taped to my office window.

Insofar as he will allow you to "talk" to him, then you must debate the issue with him. Of course, no one can "make" someone else "talk with you." HOWEVER, there has to be a normal "two-way street" here. If someone desires to say something to you -- then it is also incumbent upon them to listen, likewise, to you saying something to them.

To the extent that he won't allow you to talk to him (if that's the case, on this issue), then you must stop him dead in his tracks if he attempts the same thing back to you -- on this topic. Even though he's older, you must teach him respect for that two-way type of conversation (that is, if he expects you to hear something from him -- and then you can listen to him and challenge him on what he says...).

ON THE OTHER MATTER, of tearing down the American Flag, no matter whether it's a flag or not (or any other thing) that shows a lot of disrespect towards you to tear that down. If this is something that you have a right to do (which I presume that it is, whatever you want to put up), then no one else has a right to tear it down. So, that must stop immediately -- if he's doing that.

I would teach him another area of "respect" in that regard. You've got a "long road ahead of you" in these things, but you must start to do that.

The only way you can combat this kind of thing is in TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

And you will get objections on both counts -- with "truth" and with "righteousness". But on both counts, Christians have it "hands down".

Pontius Pilate said to Jesus, "What is truth?" That's a common phrase these days, too. The answer to that is what all Christians know already -- the words from Jesus, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but through me." [NASB] This is the truth -- the full revelation of Jesus Christ.

Then, with "righteousness", that comes only from Salvation in Jesus Christ. It's with His righteousness that God imputes that to us, individually (because of our faith in Him and our acceptance of what He has done for us). That's the only way.

That's the answer to the two objections -- for "truth" and for "righteousness". And on that basis you can go forward.

We see in Ephesians 6:10-20

Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of His might.

Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming missiles of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints, and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

Paul was saying this, and it applies to us all (whoever is in Christ). He's pointing out that these things are not (at the heart of the issue) being fought against "flesh and blood". What he is saying is that there is truly something more going on than is on the surface of just people and their own desires and wishes. There are powers and spiritual forces of darkness at work here. You have someone in your own family who is in the "power of darkness" and that's just the way it is. And if they are to get out of that, it requires exactly what Paul said here.

With Islam, it is even more clear that we fight "not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."

If one doesn't fight this battle exactly like the Apostle Paul says, then one will lose.

[areafiftyone]

Dyson said he had heard many Muslims in Portland say they were prepared to join the jihad.

Good and we will buy them a one way ticket to Afghanistan strapped to a missle. These people should be rounded up - arrested and sent back home. They are not and never will be U.S. Citizens. These people don't even deserve to be interviewed.

[zeaal]

He is just using that Islamic scholar told me not to go excuse because first he is a COWARD and second he is broke, out of money, a bum ... (unemployed).
He would run for the hills or hide under his bed if it came right down to a face to face.
CREEP!

[poindexter]

Guy's got a screw loose. Maybe someone will tighten it for him.

[KLT]

My point is this: Cracking down on illegal aliens is already doable---but the laws on apprehending US citizens of Arab/Middle Eastern descent in peace time make it more difficult to close the noose around those in our midst who are sending these anthrax letters (I am assuming some are citizens or at least legal immigrants).

Excellent point my friend. :^)

[Hedgehog]

Please sign up for the Charles Atlas course, and call us again once you've graduated

Or to rip off a great punch line from a David Spade appearance on SNL:

"Call Adnon Kashogi(sp?); you need to buy some arms."

[bluehorse95]

I don't know, but this could be darn good reason to loose American citizenship. No citizenship...No liberties. Here buddy, a one way ticket to paradise! We need to stop extending these scallywags the very "civil liberties" provided by our nation that they abhor. Just like the leftists used our virtue against us, these evil people use the freedoms granted by our nation's constitution against us.

[American Preservative]

Thanks for the ping.

Ed, see #72 and #89.

All see #146. : )

[zoyd]

Afternoon bump.

[Ed_NYC]

Thanks for the info.

Regards,

Ed

[rockfish59]

and his 'son' is so proud of his baaa-daaaa-aaady!

[Ordie 1]

I completely agree!!! But lets see how that knife goes up his who,who sideways then he won't be so proud. Later today there will be a new thread stating his house was burned down and the libs will be saying poor akmod, He was a citizen, yea right. The true citizen sees this guy for what he is LOSER!!!!

[craig_eddy]

Wonder if he's any relation to Isamu Dyson the comic character?

[Hildy]

Sounds like some Muslims view their religion like a Gang. That's how you get deranged people to fight for you.

[uscit]

Exactly right. We have much more to fear from the terrorists that are already here than the ones half way around the world, yet we are spending probably 100 times more on fighting terrorists overseas. When the "sleeper cells" rise up and kill a bunch more of us maybe the government will do something about the domestic front. They could start by agressively checking and deporting all illegal immigrants; if they didn't limit it to just focusing on Middle-Easterners they would avoid the charge of "discrimination."

[Ditto]

"I would consider it more noble for me to go and get myself out of the country, renounce my citizenship, end up in Afghanistan, pick up a gun and fight alongside everyone else against the enemy - American soldiers," he said.

But he said he consulted an Islamic scholar for guidance, and was told his first responsibility was to a young son from his previous marriage.

Who's for pitching in for a scholarship fund for his kid and a one-way ticket to hell Afghanistan for this fruitcake? If this guy is so damn anxious to fight beside his brother Osama, I think we should try to help him while at the same time helping to sanitize the gene pool of Portland Maine and planet Earth. It's a win-win folks.

[jedi150]

Citizenship should cease to exist at this point.

According to the Laws in regard to citizenship (from my interpitation) is this jerk has made a claim of alliance to a foreign government and his citizenship is therefore GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It states clearly in a passpot what you can do to lose you citizenship and this is one reason.

[GVnana]

What a loser. Is he in jail yet? Who pays for his prescriptions? Wasn't the FBI looking for suspicious persons in Maine? Guess he wants to be a target.