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China Bans Muslim/Arab Passengers
News Max ^ | 10/13/01 | NewsMax.com Wires

Posted on 10/13/2001 8:21:25 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

China Bans Muslim/Arab Passengers

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Monday, Oct. 15, 2001
HONG KONG (UPI) -- Travel agents in Hong Kong and Beijing said China has banned nationals from 19 countries from buying air tickets for its state-owned airlines in a step-up in security following the terrorist attacks on Washington, D.C., and New York City in September.

"We were told not to sell tickets to Muslim passengers mainly for routes going to North America. European routes were later added," said one travel agent in Beijing.

"I cannot sell tickets to people from the Middle East who want to fly Chinese airlines to the United States," said another travel agent.

A memo was sent to major ticketing agencies, possibly throughout the world, instructing them not to issue tickets to people from a list of countries, according to the South China Morning Post on Saturday. The notice also said that passengers from named countries who already had tickets should be contacted and told they could not fly with the airlines. The memo suggested that under certain circumstances the ruling could be waived.

The memo said, "Tickets shall not be issued to people from these 20 countries again. Tickets already issued should be canceled and fully refunded, or processed only after receiving confirmation from the local embassy or consulate. People from these countries shall be strictly controlled. But be flexible, they are being told, and consult the local embassy or consulate to discuss how stringent the edict should be."

The countries listed are Afghanistan, Egypt, Israel, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Yemen, Sudan, Kuwait, Libya, and Algeria. It added people of Palestinian or Pakistani origin with "unusual background" should also be denied tickets.

The decision to ban certain nationals from China's airlines came from rulings by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Civil Aviation Department, said the notice.

China's state-run airlines carry a majority of the passengers traveling to the mainland. China Southern Airlines, China Eastern Airlines and Air China also fly most of the internal routes in China.

"I think that awareness of the nature of discrimination on the basis of race is very weak in China, "said Sophia Woodman, Research Director in Hong Kong with Human Rights in China. "This kind of blanket ban is clearly not the way to prevent terrorism and is discriminatory."

Earlier this week officials with Pakistan's consulate in Hong Kong lodged a complaint with local authorities and with China's Foreign Ministry in Beijing after numbers of Pakistani nationals in this former British colony were denied visas for the mainland.

"The numbers who have been refused are in the hundreds," said Naila Maqsood, the Vice Consul-General of Pakistan's consulate in Hong Kong. "These are all people who reside in Hong Kong and have Hong Kong ID cards. They have not been given any specific reason for refusal."

Many of those who applied for visas to the mainland have traveled there on business numerous times and have never been refused entry before, she said. There are about 25,000 Pakistani nationals living in Hong Kong and many are businesspeople whose jobs require them to travel to mainland China.

"To punish an entire nation, or the members of a faith, for the sins of a few is cruel and unjust," railed an editorial in the South China Morning Post on Saturday.

"In a particularly ham-fisted gesture they [China] appear to have singled out Pakistanis, implying they are persona non grata, regardless of what travel document they hold. This is an extreme over-reaction, which can only backfire."

"My own apprehension is that they don't want any Pakistani nationals in China before President Bush arrives in Shanghai at the end of October," said Maqsood.

President George Bush is expected to attend an informal economic leaders meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation in Shanghai from Oct. 17 to 21. Analysts in Hong Kong and Beijing have questioned whether the U.S. president will stick to his schedule and attend the meeting while Operation Enduring Freedom is in progress.

Diplomatic sources in Hong Kong who declined to be identified said people from Middle Eastern countries were facing the same problems as the Pakistanis in obtaining visas for mainland China. They said they believed China was increasing security before the APEC meeting and Bush's arrival.

(Kirk Troy in Beijing contributed to this story.)


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hmmm...maybe there is an advantage to being a Murderous Dictatorship where you can control the people... /sarcasm
1 posted on 10/13/2001 8:21:25 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
But . . . but . . . that's racism!

Isn't that what the Chinese called it when we caught that Chinese guy photocopying our nuclear secrets?

2 posted on 10/13/2001 8:23:27 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: Enemy Of The State
ALSO HERE.
3 posted on 10/13/2001 8:25:04 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Sorry annie, I neglected to search...bad bad bad!
4 posted on 10/13/2001 8:25:56 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Doesn't bother me, EOTS! I just like to link things so folks can see prior commentary.
5 posted on 10/13/2001 8:32:47 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Enemy Of The State
Common sense -- FROM CHINA??

And did everyone see that "Banned" list? Needless to say they just reduced the odds of Anthrax infestation or random bombings by 99.99%

6 posted on 10/13/2001 8:33:16 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Enemy Of The State
Personally, I think it's an excellent idea. Isolate these people from the rest of the world until they get rid of the pestilence in their midst. If they won't do that, they can rot in their self-created third-world squalor.
7 posted on 10/13/2001 8:34:38 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: 537 Votes
Isn't that what the Chinese called it when we caught that Chinese guy photocopying our nuclear secrets?

Are you talking about this guy?

LINK

He's a big hero among the "multi-cultural" liberals out here. This is another case the Clinton FBI screwed up.

8 posted on 10/13/2001 8:47:01 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: Enemy Of The State
well, even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn from time to time. very prudent move from the chicoms, the top of the terrorist tree.
9 posted on 10/13/2001 8:50:10 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Pining_4_TX
What!? and become isolationist hedonismists? /saracsm
10 posted on 10/13/2001 8:51:01 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
hedonismists hedonists?
11 posted on 10/13/2001 8:53:04 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Well, talk about your terrorist blowback! Islamics are going to find that most of the world doesn't worry about "civil rights" when it comes to security. Hell, why would anyone want to leave these countries which are run according to Allah's law? Aren't those countries heaven on earth?

Look, fools, root out the terrorists and these kind of problems go away.

13 posted on 10/13/2001 9:08:50 PM PDT by Faraday
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I'd say they are taking care of Number One. (or is in number one billion & one) Better safe than sorry. The USA could have another disaster and the press would oh and ah about how fair Easteners were treated.
14 posted on 10/13/2001 9:22:57 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Enemy Of The State
"This kind of blanket ban is clearly not the way to prevent terrorism and is discriminatory."

This clearly is the way to prevent terrorism but, yes, it is discriminatory. The Chinese aren't hung up in political correctness especially when certain Middle Eastern nationals account for 99.9% of world terrorism. The B.S. being spewed that you can't discriminate against a culture because of the evil of a few is hogwash when the few can wreak unimaginable death, horror and destruction on thousands of innocent people. I am still waiting for someone to tell me how to identify an Arab/Muslim terrorist from a peace loving Arab/Muslim...before they commit mass murder. And I think the FBI would like to know too.

15 posted on 10/13/2001 9:27:21 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Pining_4_TX
I agree there is just no good reason to allow the enemy into this country, not even a may-be enemy. If the Islamics dislike the program, maybe they will do more to put a stop to terrorism. Right now, Islamics are condoning terrorism, by their silence and failure to distance themselves from the evil ones who would destroy our country.
16 posted on 10/13/2001 9:32:45 PM PDT by tessalu
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well, even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn from time to time. very prudent move from the chicoms, the top of the terrorist tree.

Yes! They do know their own and what they are capable of.

17 posted on 10/13/2001 9:33:14 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: tessalu
I agree there is just no good reason to allow the enemy into this country, not even a may-be enemy. If the Islamics dislike the program, maybe they will do more to put a stop to terrorism. Right now, Islamics are condoning terrorism, by their silence and failure to distance themselves from the evil ones who would destroy our country.

Good point. As long as America acts as an escape valve for Middle Easterners fleeing their own radical Muslim elements not much internal pressure will be applied against their terrorism. Deporting the Muslim visitors back to their homeland will have the effect of getting them to deal with their homegrown dens of evil and religious extremism.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 9:48:56 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
The only problem is that when they terrorize each other it just seems to have provided a breading ground for creating terrorists. And it gives them another reason to hate us. It is a "no win" situation. They don't want to live like us, but if we accomodate them and keep them out, that will anger them too. If you want to hate, you can always find a reason.
19 posted on 10/13/2001 11:03:29 PM PDT by Leagle
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To: Enemy Of The State
The way Arabs/Muslims should handle this racism is to apply a surcharge to all oil sold and with the proceeds provide all their travelling subjects with a free jet aircraft with their initials monogrammed on the front.

And any ship passing thru the Suez Canal with a one way ticket should have its contents offloaded, searched box by box and the crew strip searched. Except if the ships are Arab/Muslim.

20 posted on 10/13/2001 11:25:19 PM PDT by Bob Burnett
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