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To: Dr. Frank
Either National ID Cards will violate liberty, or they will not have the benefit which its proponents foresee in the first place. Either, or. Fair enough?

I pretty much agree with that, though I am not sure how current law would be affected by a requirement to carry an ID card. I am not sure what left wing lawyers would dream up to prevent the gubmint from requiring it. I can see some battles being fought over it. Is it a violation of liberty to be required to show identification under ANY circumstances, or just some?

71 posted on 10/15/2001 5:48:48 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Is it a violation of liberty to be required to show identification under ANY circumstances, or just some?

If Situation X is a situation where, currently, one would not have their ID checked, but under the National ID system, they would, then a liberty has been violated. Namely: the liberty to be a human being in Situation X without being in possession of a plastic card.

Fair enough? :)

In other words, the answer to your question is, "Just some circumstances would be enough."

I do hope you are right though that left-wing lawyers would resist the National ID Card requirements on liberty grounds. If Dershowitz is any example, however, I won't hold my breath. Best,

83 posted on 10/15/2001 8:20:27 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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