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To: Goblins
Your unique interpretations of completely out of context verses sound so *right* don't they? It's all the things in between which you left out that show the desperate search to eliminate not just the House of Yehuda, but also Benyamin and Levi. Don't you know that it was designated that ONLY the House of Levi were to be accepted into priesthood? What is your problem with the ENTIRE Old testament that you so rudely posit unconnected pronouncements to make a point that is illegitimate on its face?
Genesis 49:8-10
Judah, thee shall thy brethren praise;
Thy hand shall be on the neck of thine enemies;
Thy father's sons shall bow down before thee.
Judah is a lion's whelp;
From the prey, my son, thou art gone up.
He stooped down, he couched as a lion,
And as a lioness; who shall rouse him up?
The sceptere shall not depart from Judah,
Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet,
As long as men come to Shiloh;
And unto him shall the obedience of the peoples be.

Genesis 49:28

All these are the twelve tribes of Israel, and this is it that their father spoke unto them and blessed them.

And BTW, Joseph went to help bury his father and returned to live out his life in Egypt. His dying words were for his brothers NOT to leave his bones in Egypt. So during the Exodus, they did indeed gather Joseph's bones and carry them back to the land which G-d promised them. That land was and is ISRAEL.

220 posted on 10/15/2001 7:05:48 PM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
You biblical reference does nothing to corecct my point of view. I have never denied that salvation was of the Jews, i.e. Jesus. The twelve tribes collectively my be called Isreal but when seperated the House containing Joseph IS ALWAYS refered to as Israel. Examine the prophets, even after the removal of the House of Israel leaving behind the House of Juda, you find the prophet talking of Israel and then in the next scentence talking of Judah and speaking of them as seperate entities. They even refer to Ephraim and Manasseh after they had disappeared into the pages of history, but they never refer to them as distinct from Israel, and yes sometimes they do refer to all the tribes as Israel but only when E & M are included. The Israel of the prophets as removed from the house of Juda is still around unless the prophets were liars and God also.
221 posted on 10/15/2001 7:43:34 PM PDT by Goblins
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