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To: Fred25
You are so woefully ignorant that you are an embarassment to this forum.

First, check your history. We did not save the Jews of Europe. Most of them died. When we had the chance to bomb the rail lines, we didn't. When a boatload of refugees came here, Roosevelt shipped them back. We knew what was happening to the Jews, but that wasn't why we fought.

Second, the Jews did not steal that land. Most of it was paid for. Check the records. Regarding the mandate that was given to the Jews, Jews purchased more than 460,000 acres of land between 1880-1947 from the Arab landowners. The Catholic church donated some land as well, as did the British government. What land they didn't purchase from the Arabs constituted primarily the Negev Desert, which was and still is uninhabited, and some densely populated areas which is not the same as "taking" their land, since the Arab owners still owned the land, only the sovereignty of the nation changed over to the Jews from the British. But if you knew much about the pre-state mandate, you would know that the Jews were never safe from murderous Islamic fanatics even decades before Israel came to be and the brutal way in which the Jews were treated by both the British and the Arabs only hastened the desire of the Jews living there to declare their independence.

Finally, don't be foolish about our own history. One the one hand you exaggerate what the Jews did, and on the other you try to minimize the American experience. We kicked the Native Americans off far more land, and for much less important reasons than agriculture or housing. We did it for gold, for oil, and because we thought they were dangerous savages. The Jews in 1948 declared that they wanted the Arabs to stay in Israel and help build a nation. The next day the Arabs invaded. Palestinians fled on the assurances of the Arabs armies that they would defeat the Jewish state and allow them to return. That war has been raging now for 53 years. It's time for the Arabs, and you, to make peace with the Jews, or forever remain the anacronism you are.

150 posted on 10/12/2001 9:38:52 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
It's time for the Arabs, and you, to make peace with the Jews

I don’t have any problem with “the Jews”. The “Jews” of the world are not the same as “the Zionists”. There are Zionists here who aren’t even Jews. Stop trying to spread old Zionist propaganda. I’ve got Jewish friends who aren’t Zionists, and I do business with Jewish people, and I don’t know whether they are Zionists or not. That’s not something we talk about. When I meet with them, we are all Americans. I repeat, the Zionists here on this board and in other places are trying to co-opt the WTC tragedy for their own selfish propaganda purposes. I resent that, and so do other people here.

153 posted on 10/12/2001 11:26:50 AM PDT by Fred25
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To: monkeyshine
JEWS NOT ZIONISTS DOT ORG

"There are in fact many Jewish movements, groups and organizations whose ideology regarding Zionism and the so-called "State of Israel" is that of the unadulterated Torah position that any form of Zionism is heresy and that the existence of the so-called "State of Israel" is illegitimate."

154 posted on 10/12/2001 11:30:56 AM PDT by Fred25
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