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I understand and appreciate what you're saying. I am opposed to companies doing their "UW fundrallies" on taxpayer dollars (ie city, state and fed. employees). If a private company does it on their own dollar, that's their choice but I am still opposed to mandatory attendance and especially strong arm tactics to give. What many people don't realize is that the liberals have made sure that all interests must be included in "Public Campaigns" and UW is just a small part of it. That's why people think we are part of Planned Parenthood, whaco environmental stuff, etc. It's called the "COMBINED CAMPAIGN of which UW is just one option). The feds distribute the dollars directly. Unless we are specifically designated, we don't see a dollar.

Another interesting twist, the UW in Ann Arbor Mich. (which I consider a bastion of liberal) still supports the Boy Scout and gives them several hundred thousand. The city leaders voted NOT TO CONDUCT A UNITED WAY CAMPAIGN because of this. They said they don't want any tax payer money going to an organization that discriminates. What really pisses me off is that, yes, this is taxpayer money, INDIRECTLY, but it is money that the city workers earn and CHOOSE to give either directly or indirectly to the Boy Scouts.

Fellow freepers, the war here is not between the UW and the Boy Scouts....it is between the local schools, municipalities etc. that are trying to pressure the cause. Because of the conservative movement and fellow freepers I think we have kept the private companies at bay by threats of boycotts...Collectively we do have power! If a private company decides to do it so be it. I'm ALSO opposed to a person being forced to attend a UW rally AND ESPECIALLY FEELING COERCED to give. Again, I ask, get to know the UW in your community.

Understand what you are saying.

But -- this problem happens ANY time resources are "pooled" for the collective good. All sides have to have a say, even ones you disagree with.

That's why I am opposed to Collectivism. I am a limited-govt. individualist. Minimal govt (small - or no - Federal social programs) in turn minimizes people being forced to pay for things they object to -- and therefore, cuts down on the acrimony which (necessarily) comes with "pooled" social funds, and programs.

I'm still unclear on WHY there have to be these big UWfundraisers, during Govt time. I smell a rat - a big gov rat. No sanctioned Federal-level fundraiser would be done with the direct or indirect "goal" to make govt SMALLER...

A lot of these non-profits are politically motivated fronts, is my conclusion. The public sector unions had to "weigh in" on approval of these UW "meetings", too. They're democrat, - and since they approved, they must be gaining something. Doesn't pass the smell test.

Take care,

Pam, in LA :)