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To: sirshackleton
Are we not thinking men that do understand how governments work?Our government has caused this problem and I think we are not willing to admit it.We were very foolish to ever think that we could solve the problems in the Middle East + squeeze them for oil at the the same time.It's a no brainer because in the end this was and is the outcome that we were all WARNED about.
15 posted on 10/08/2001 5:22:32 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: taxtruth
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I used to get worked up by bullshit like this. But this one is just soooooooooo ham-handed, so pathetically obvious, it's not even worth the effort.

...most warlike, interventionist...blah blah...

Bwahahahahahahhaha...

The author needs to check his meds.

18 posted on 10/08/2001 5:28:25 PM PDT by borkrules
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To: taxtruth
Yes, we were indeed warned... by a brave lawyer named Stephen Jones who tried in vain to get the truth out there:

March 25, 1997

From Stephen Jones' petition for a writ of mandamus to Federal Judge Richard P. Matsch on behalf of Timothy James McVeigh that he should issue more discovery orders for material to be turned over:

An official in the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service reported < reference 17> on April 19, 1995, and possibly earlier, that Iraq had hired seven Pakistani mercenaries, all veterans of the Afghanistan War, to bomb targets in the United States, one of which was the Alfred P. Murrah Building. D.E. 2191 at 3 (Exhibit "A").

A former Chief of Counterterrorism Operations for the Central Intelligence Agency provided this information to the United States government and described his source as "responsible for developing intelligence to help prevent the (Saudi) Royal Family from becoming victims of a terrorist attack." Id.>>>

Footnote 17: Significant portions of this material are in the public record either through media account or court proceedings. ...... The Saudi Arabian official reported that the bombing of the Murrah Building was sponsored by the Iraqi Special Services, who "contracted" the mission to seven (7) former Afghani freedom fighters currently living in Pakistan. The official also advised that the identity of the true sponsor of the bombing was concealed from the Pakistanis and the Afghan mercenaries may not have knowledge of Iraqi involvement or sponsorship. This is not unusual..... Despite repeated requests, the defense has been provided the sum total of three pages of information concerning this aspect of the case. See D.E. 2191 Exhibit "A."

The defense requested assistance from the United States State Department, via letter to the Secretary of State, to assist in defense investigation and travel to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has very stringent entry requirements and the defense was unable to facilitate investigation there. The State Department declined politely to assist the defense's travel to Saudi Arabia and attempt to interview the Saudi Arabian official. However, the State Department sent a list of law firms practicing in Saudi Arabia to the defense; ...... the State Department had no difficulty in facilitating entry into Saudi Arabia of American FBI agents traveling there to investigate the death of Americans in Saudi Arabia.

March 30 1997 Electronic Telegraph Issue 674

85 posted on 10/08/2001 9:57:12 PM PDT by slym
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