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To: Squire
They who declared St. Joan a witch were hardly "orthodox Catholic sources." They were clergy acting beyond their authority and in contravention of both ecclesiastical law and basic moral principles. And their findings were overturned by the Holy See when it reviewed the case several years after her "conviction."

Joan of Arc's case was only looked at -- 25 years after her execution by the Catholic church -- because the king of France, restored to his throne by Joan in person, was being called "An illegitimate king" because he was placed there by a duly convicted (per the Catholic church) witch.

What I'm writing is factual -- something had to be done to save that worthless king; and the Orthodox" Catholic authorities found a way to do it.

In today's world, you can marry in the Catholic church, have five kids, and get your marriage annulled. Guess what that takes?

95 posted on 10/07/2001 6:49:20 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
What you write is not factual. The Catholic Church did not condemn St. Joan anymore than Presbyterianism burned Michael Servetus. Individual clergy condemned St. Joan -- clergy who put feudal loyalites above justice. The review of the case was hardly favorable to Charles VII, the French king.

Her "conviction" was overturned because of the various outrages of this "trial" -- e.g., refusal to grant the accused an advocate, the behavior of the judges (who deliberately tried to trick the accused), the housing conditions of the accused, and refusing the accused her appeal to Rome.

112 posted on 10/07/2001 7:07:18 PM PDT by Squire
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To: thinktwice
And in today's Protestant world, you can marry five times and contracept all along the way and still think you're going to Heaven.

Guess what THAT takes?

235 posted on 10/08/2001 2:51:26 PM PDT by Aristophanes
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