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Sr. Lucy Receives New Message
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Posted on 10/07/2001 4:41:26 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon

Michael Matt, editor of the Remnant a traditionalist Catholic newspaper published the following report on their website. We have been informed by a reliable contact in France that Sister Lucy (the only surviving seer of the Fatima apparitions) has delivered a message to Carmelite sisters in France. According to this report, Sister Lucy recently received another communication from the Mother of God. In the wake of that communication, we are told, Sister Lucy has asked Carmelite sisters throughout the world to pray specifically on the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary for a special intention. That intention is, we are told, that the world might be spared “a blood bath.” Whether this has any connection to the impending war with Islamic terrorists, we have no way of knowing. Though our French source is reliable, we have not been able to confirm this report ourselves, and are now in the process of trying to do so. At least two Carmelite convents in the United States have indicated to us that they have NOT received such a message. One Carmelite convent, however, did confirm that they did receive a letter from the Asociatcion Ntra. Sca Del Rosario in Fatima Portugal (dated September 13th, 2001), which did call on the Carmelite order to unite with Sister Lucy in praying for peace in the world on October 7—the Feast of the Holy Rosary. In this letter (written in Spanish) there was no mention of a recent communication to Sister Lucy from Our Lady, nor was there reference to a “blood bath.” We are presently waiting for the text of the French version. In any event, we believe that, because time is short between now and the Feast of the Holy Rosary, it would be a good idea for all Catholics to join the Carmelites in praying for this intention on tomorrow’s Feast. Such an intention is a certainly most worthy, especially right now; so even if this French report turns out to be somehow exaggerated, the intention is still well worth remembering during this critical hour of unrest and uncertainty in the world.


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To: HapaxLegamenon
What have I missed?

Well, one group of people aren't buying your report because it is vague and comes from a source that is not officially sanctioned by the Church. The other group doubts you (and attacks you) because they don't believe in the Church at all.

Understand now?

21 posted on 10/07/2001 5:09:14 PM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: dubyaismypresident
You are. See #19.
22 posted on 10/07/2001 5:09:43 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: HapaxLegamenon
SSPX stands for something like "Societatis Sacerdotalis Sanctum Pius X," which translates as, "Priestly Society of St. Pius X." It's an association of about 300 priests and a lot of seminarians.

It was founded with Paul VI's permission in 1969/70 to continue the traditional rite of Mass, but either drifted away from the Church or was driven out of the Church (depending on whom you ask). It went into formal schism in 1988. I don't know a lot of the history behind what led to the schism -- but it sounds like an unhappy set of events. Talks are underway to bring the group back, but SSPX seems to be making some "impertinent" demands on the Pope that are holding things up.

23 posted on 10/07/2001 5:11:53 PM PDT by Squire
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To: proud2bRC
I need to see verification of this from an orthodox Catholic source. <

Orthodox Catholic sources declared Joan of Arc a witch before burning her at the stake.

I respect the Catholic church for its good works, but I prefer to place my faith in Jesus and Mary while carefully questioning what you call "Orthodox" Catholicism.

24 posted on 10/07/2001 5:11:55 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: johniegrad
My apologies, may I be added to your list, no disrespect was intended.
25 posted on 10/07/2001 5:12:44 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: thinktwice
They who declared St. Joan a witch were hardly "orthodox Catholic sources." They were clergy acting beyond their authority and in contravention of both ecclesiastical law and basic moral principles. And their findings were overturned by the Holy See when it reviewed the case several years after her "conviction."
26 posted on 10/07/2001 5:16:47 PM PDT by Squire
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To: HapaxLegamenon
I am sorry if I don't understand the scorn I am getting. What have I missed?

You have missed nothing. I hope and pray that our Dear Sr. Lucy, Lucia of Fatima, has heard from Our Blessed Mother. Today is not only the feastday of the Most Holy Rosary, but also the anniverary of the Battle of Laponto.

Don't pay any attention to those who mock and scorn the most sacred beliefs of our Catholic faith. Just pray for them. There is no doubt in my mind that we are living the final days and that the battle between our Lady and Satan is upon us. Pray the Rosary daily for this world and for the defeat of the evil one who has indeed penetrated the very seat of Rome.

27 posted on 10/07/2001 5:18:36 PM PDT by fortitude
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To: Senator Pardek
Lucy - you got some 'splainin' to do!

You just had to do it didn't you!
Thank you!

28 posted on 10/07/2001 5:19:32 PM PDT by LUVYA DUBYA 2000
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To: Unam Sanctam
No he is not. The quote is from St Paul re St. Peter, the first Pope and acknowledged head of the Church establised by Jesus Christ.
29 posted on 10/07/2001 5:19:39 PM PDT by Rushian
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Thank You for posting the information...I appreciate it!
30 posted on 10/07/2001 5:21:12 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Even if there is nothing 'magic' about any of this, it cannot hurt to do what Sr. Lucy recommends. I find it eerie that this rosary thing takes place on the day of the Islamic defeat - I also find it weird that we are getting this message from the messenger of FATIMA who was the prophet Mohammed's favorite daughter, which surely must portend some gesture of mercy on our Islamic brothers and sisters. Be all of that as it may, it can't hurt to take the prayer suggestion and I think people should do it.
31 posted on 10/07/2001 5:21:48 PM PDT by The Kitten
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To: dubyaismypresident
Yes, I understand that the "List" is a bump list on Catholic Issues. I would be happy to be added.
As far as I know Fatima has already received offical recognition. While it is true that a Catholic does not have to believe in Fatima, I have never met a Catholic who doubts it.
In any case, Sr. Lucy, Jacinta, and Francisco believed in Fatima for decades before it recived offical Church recognition.
Sorry if this sounds like a rash judgement, but those you you who seem to be scorning Fatima, are using the same Languaue "The Church has not yet spoken", etc. as those Catholics who think Women ordinaiton, abortion, homosexuality, and contraception are still open questions.
32 posted on 10/07/2001 5:24:01 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: HapaxLegamenon, all catholics
Today begins a novena for an end to abortion. The Holy Father has given his blessing for all who participate in this novena of prayer and fasting.

I'll try to find the information, its from the 7th until the 16th.

33 posted on 10/07/2001 5:24:09 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: HapaxLegamenon
In any case I doubt think any Catholic can doubt Fatima!

Not anymore. I remember reading books my mother had around that terrified me as a kid but I decided not to worry because I'd have to be the age I am now before any of it started happening.

36 posted on 10/07/2001 5:26:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: The Kitten
It's not a coincidence that the Feast of Our Lady of the Holy Rosary falls on the same date as Lepanto. St. Pius V called for all Christians to pray the Rosary for the defeat of the Turks. When the Turks were defeated at Lepanto on October 7th, the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary was placed on October 7th.
37 posted on 10/07/2001 5:26:40 PM PDT by Squire
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To: dubyaismypresident
"I am unsure as to what "the List" is, my guess is it may be a list of readings that Catholics should avoid, lest they be taken down a false path...I could be wrong...

I am keeping my mouth zippered - but this line sure opens up some thoughts from me as an ex-Catholic (now born again Christian).

38 posted on 10/07/2001 5:27:26 PM PDT by txzman
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To: HapaxLegamenon
World War II for the US began on Dec. 7th 1941, the eve of the Feast of Mary's birthday and ended on Aug. 14th 1945, the eve of the Feast of the Assumption.

I seem to recall that the fall of Soviet communism happened on Marian feast days.

39 posted on 10/07/2001 5:27:30 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: The Kitten
Fatima was mohammed daughter and she married a catholic and went to France..
40 posted on 10/07/2001 5:27:31 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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