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To: LS; kosta50
Allow me to highlight the following, for clarification:
Koran-[9:111] GOD has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for Paradise. Thus, they fight in the cause of GOD, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran - and who fulfills His pledge better than GOD? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.
Gospel teaches to kill in the cause of God? Speaking of the devil... kosta50

Yes, this is satanic verbage. To imply that God needs to purchase anything from humankind is satanic because it sets the entire of creation on its head, implying that the created are greater than the Creator. Satan would like for we humans to swallow that lie, if for no other reason than it will give him more roommates when the final division of the spiritual universe is done.

Islam, as the Koran characterizes belief/faith, is a works religion and all such religions are a subset of the lie begun in the Garden that appeal to humans making themselves 'good enough'; the lie to Cain's heart was that he could bring any damn offering he chose, regardless of what God instructed, and God should have to accept it! This same lie is only slightly inverted to read 'God needs money and bodies and bloody warriors, so He has to purchase them in exchange for paradise.' The terrorists believe this and so do the vast mnajority of Muslims, whether Wahhabist or otherwise; that is the nature culmination of a works based religion.

Judaism as currently practiced by Jewish fundamentalists falls into the same fold of works-based belief ... but the OT shows it is the purview of God what sacrifice will be accepted, forshadowing the coming supreme gift of Grace in Christ. [end of the dogma according to Marvin; take it or leave, as you wish]

69 posted on 10/07/2001 9:43:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Thank you for your informative answer. To me this is all meaningless because the world revolved without man's inventions of gods and deities for a long time and will, no doubt, continue to do so in spite of them. I just find it interesting that in the 21st century we are still fighting crusades of sorts and quoting various religious texts as if they represented anything tangible or real -- other than what people make of them.

Religion, if one must believe in something, should be a personal matter, something one does in the privacy of his or her life, and not an institution or polics of conquest.

I wish he could have shown me which Gospel calls on the believers in Christ to kill, but I also know that believers in Christ took it upon themselves to interpret their "duty" to kill in the name of Christ on too many occasions.

I also find it somewhat perplexing that the Koran is the litteral word of God (voices!), yet it should be interpretted allegorically. How does one interpret allegorically Sura, Chapter 9?

86 posted on 10/08/2001 6:29:20 PM PDT by kosta50
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