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To: Pokey78
I suggest anyone willing to comment on this should read the Koran first.

Contrary to some not-so-authoritative officials, I don't find it peaceful, forgiving and kind, unless you are already a Muslim. Rather I find it accusatory and full of anger. That's my impression, having read it. Read and be you own judge.

3 posted on 10/06/2001 5:42:22 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
I've read it, or at least, segments of it. I also was involved in a project that required me to read the Hadith, which, according to the authoritative "Introduction to Islam," is considered to be the spiritual equivalent to the Koran. Betcha didn't know that.

If you read the Hadith, it makes YOUR point even stronger, though not airtight. The Prophet PERSONALLY ordered the horrible death and mutilation of people who so much as stole a camel (Jesus said of His killers, "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do"). The Hadith is the writings about Muhammad, and what he said and did, by those closest to him---sort of like the Gospels except for the "red letters." He had multiple slaves (Jesus didn't have a slave, but rather preached freedom); he had multiple wives and said women had only a fraction of the brain of a male; he sinned and admitted that he would continue to sin (Jesus was sinless); and he preached holy war against infidels.

LIKE CHRISTIANITY, if you really want to contort the message, you can. In this case, if you really want to misinterpret the overall message, you can get "peace" out of the Koran. But if you apply principles of consistency (what's called in the Bible "in the mouths of two or three witnesses"), then Islam looks to me like a violent religion.

However, we must be very careful with this, and we only need look as far as Israel: Israel is anything BUT an Old Testament theocracy. Modern-day Israel is dominated by so-called "reform Jews." I would guess that 90% of American Jews are "reform Jews." That is to say, they do not accept the most basic teachings of their "holy book" the Torah. So our question with Islam is, are the vast majority of Muslims "reform Muslims" (backslidden Baptists, as we used to say of my church, or "Jack Mormons" in LDS circles), or are they "devout." If they are "devout," and if, as I suspect, Islam is indeed a violent religion, then the author is substantially right.

5 posted on 10/06/2001 5:57:36 PM PDT by LS
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To: kosta50
Contrary to some not-so-authoritative officials, I don't find it peaceful, forgiving and kind, unless you are already a Muslim.

That's exactly the point I 've been making. Moslem literature paints a utopian picture of the world where the entire world is islamic...until that day they will fight the kafir to the death. I hope we're ready for what lies ahead.

14 posted on 10/06/2001 7:04:29 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: kosta50
The question to ask a Moslem is whether he worships the same God as Osama. If he answers yes then he is also the enemy.
18 posted on 10/06/2001 7:16:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: kosta50
I suggest anyone willing to comment on this should read the Koran first.

Contrary to some not-so-authoritative officials, I don't find it peaceful, forgiving and kind, unless you are already a Muslim. Rather I find it accusatory and full of anger. That's my impression, having read it. Read and be you own judge.

Ever read the Old Testament, bud? Or, the Talmud? Even the devil can quote scripture for his own purposes.

23 posted on 10/06/2001 7:41:13 PM PDT by Hamza01
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To: kosta50
I suggest anyone willing to comment on this should read the Koran first.

Yes. I read it and I came to the same conclusions you did.
"Oh," say my liberal co-academics, "no Islamic authority believes in a literalist interpretation of the Koran!"
("Have you ever read it?" I ask. "Well, no, but no Islamic authority believes...")
But as my significant other says, religion isn't defined by the scholars, it's defined by the people who read the text and then strap a bomb to their chest and walk into an Israeli pizza parlor.

25 posted on 10/06/2001 7:49:02 PM PDT by Anamensis
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To: kosta50
you are correct and it's apparent we are all supposed to fall in line and go along with our destruction at the hands of the nwo and its number one ally, islam.
27 posted on 10/06/2001 7:51:11 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: kosta50

I suggest anyone willing to comment on this should read the Koran first.

Contrary to some not-so-authoritative officials, I don't find it peaceful, forgiving and kind, unless you are already a Muslim. Rather I find it accusatory and full of anger. That's my impression, having read it. Read and be you own judge.

YES, YES, YES. The Koran is a piece of nasty hate literature. It is obvious that Mohammed was duping a bunch of ignorant people into accepting Arab supremacy. It is amazing how the Koran ridicules and denigrates Christians and Jews, just to mention an example.

36 posted on 10/06/2001 8:04:38 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: kosta50
This article is sad but true.

Read [the Koran] and be you own judge.

I don't think that's too much to ask.

81 posted on 10/08/2001 7:27:33 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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