[George W. Bush]

So there’s little need for me to address arguments upon which Piper himself is unwilling to stand.

I read Piper as saying that these arguments are so obvious they require no further discussion but he stated his second and third argument as additional arguments and the sorts of argument to support believers' baptism when debating paedobaptists.

Piper most certainly did not dismiss the primary and most obvious scriptural arguments, his first argument.

[patriot_wes]

A remember where a disciple said "Lord, what must I do to be saved? and I don't recall Jesus saying be baptized.