The truth is that many adults stand for baptism without having been saved. There is an element of presumption in adult as well as infant baptism.
There was a man who was baptized in my Church about 6 months ago who has not showed up to Church since that time. It appears he thinks the baptism saved him. My Pastor advocates "adult dunking" and I lean towards infant baptism. This is probably the danger in Adult baptism the thought by some that the work is salvation.
It's unfortunate that our Threads on Covenant v. Dispensational theology lacked participation except by the rants of "end-timers". Notice how this subject, as do more important issues, seem to revolve around a persons Theological position. What is odd is the Calvinist Baptist usually advocate an covenantal position except on baptism in which they do an about face and become dispensationalists.
It's unfortunate that our Threads on Covenant v. Dispensational theology lacked participation except by the rants of "end-timers". Notice how this subject, as do more important issues, seem to revolve around a persons Theological position. What is odd is the Calvinist Baptist usually advocate an covenantal position except on baptism in which they do an about face and become dispensationalists.
That was an oportunity to examine beliefs from the foundation up..instead of the other way around
From the day I of my salvation 25 years ago to this day,my doctrinal teaching has been a patchwork job..I had the catholic backround ,which I generally threw out the more I read and understood the gospel.but lock,there was nothing to really replace it with.....so I used scripture and Christian friends as "guides"...Six months ago I could not have named 3 Commentators,or explain the difference in systematic Theology and Wesleyan theology.I had heard of TULIP..but other than being able to tell you the words ,it meant nothing to me.
Lock ,I was saved by the grace of God,not a theological position,so I never worried about it..
Today it seems important to me.some of it is giving words to my faith...some of it is explaining how I know God,but never looked at it before,some of it gives an acknowlegement to things that always "seemed right" to me...that thread was an opportunity to look for the termites in the basement *grin*..instead we ended up looking for holes in the roof..