Palm Beach County FL Man has Anthrax

Fox News Channel

[NautiNurse]

Breaking news on FNC--a 63 year old man from Palm Beach County is in critical condition with anthrax

[a merkin]

Lantana is roughly 60 miles from Miami and you take I-95 to get there. . . .Guys, it wouldn't be one if it were an attack. It would be hundreds.

Isn't Lantana also 10 or 12 miles from DelRay Beach where Hamza Alghamdi and Mohand Alshehri (United Airlines FL 175) shacked up in a motel? And, hey, with incubation periods of up to 40-60 days who knows if this is just one or the first? I wouldn't panic but I'm keeping an eye on this story.

[shezza]

Symptoms

a reddish brown sore that breaks open and forms a scab
fever (check)
chills (check)
general discomfort, uneasiness, or ill feeling (malaise) (check)
headache (check)
nausea & vomiting (check)
shortness of breath (check)
cough (double check)
congestion of the nose and throat (check)
pneumonia
joint stiffness (check)
joint pain (check)

Aw, DANG!!! And I thought I was getting the flu, here.

shezz (at Aberdeen Proving Ground, no less)

[Movemout]

What are you doing flying a Texas flag if you are in Maryland? (Hope your flu is better)

[Poohbah]

First off, anthrax is bacterial, not viral.

Second, colloidal silver should be taken for more than three days at a time, and you should massively increase your fluid intake during that time. Taking it for fifty days straight is courting your choice of renal failure or liver failure, depending on whether or not you drink enough fluids.

Third, I find it hard to credit Mr. Harris' claims regarding how the Iraqis have this amazing operations plan and simultaneously have such s***ty operations security that one of their agents would blab the details in full to Mr. Harris. It was supposedly a woman. I've seen a picture of Mr. Harris--and he ain't THAT good-looking.

Fourth, Mr. Harris' background keeps getting more and more amazing with each telling. Does he claim to have been a senior executive service biowarfare expert for the CIA in this book, or does this claim postdate his book?

[shezza]

Thanks. We're "temporarily transplanted" Texans while darling hubby serves as an Intel Analyst with the illustrious United States Army. Would love it if we didn't have the big red rings around the site's stockpile of chem and bio stuff. ;o)

(No loose lips--it's well-known that APG houses both research labs and weapons galore.)

[Movemout]

I am well acquainted with the illustrious US Army. They love to paint things and scare dependents. It breaks up the boredom. Good luck transplanted Texan.

[Poohbah]

Actually, the biggest problem in taking an antibiotic when you don't need to is that it will destroy the NECESSARY bacteria in your gastrointestinal tract--making digestion much harder, and opening yourself up to opportunistic GI tract infections when you go off the antibiotic.

[TexanaRED]

Thanks! I have been told a zillion times why one should not take antibiotics when they are not sick, but my feeble little brain just couldn't shake out the cobwebs and put it on paper or, in this case, the monitor!

[Merovingian]

FOX News reporting this man has died.

[Eustace]

That's the reason I said "Larry said", I'm no expert on the subject. He doesn't claim to be CIA, he says he can't say that. But in an interview he allows the commentator to suggest that he was CIA. As I said I know nothing about him other than he was arrested by the FBI and released over anthrax vaccine.

I try to share information so along with others who do the same we can reach conclusions, hopefully.

As far as colloidal silver as I said I personally made mine and it tested 10ppm's. I was taking 6-8 ounces a day and before it would fall out I would finish it (for months). I have my blood tested periodically for cholesterol and have shown no problems with my liver.A guy at work buys his colloidal silver and takes a teaspoon a day. I don't claim to be a doctor and would never knowingly mislead anyone, but my personal experience doesn't meet your warning. The people that tested my mixture (Betz) warned me about heavy metals being toxic. I explained that the people who sell it say no amount is toxic, but warned about skin color. I asked him to show me silver in his toxicity book, and to his surprise silver was nontoxic.

If you have further information I would be interested.Dont they still use a small amount of silver nitrate to wash newborns eyes, and doesn't it protect them from VD which could blind them?

[Poohbah]

Re: colloidal silver. I'm going by the instructions on my bottle on the dosage/time limit--I usually use 3-5 drops under the tongue, once a day, and then drink an extra four glasses of water throughout the day to make sure it doesn't settle down in the skin. If three days of colloidal silver can't kill whatever's ailing me, more won't help. Also, in issues pertaining to toxicity, "the dose is the toxin." I have been told by a couple of naturopaths I trust that silver can be VERY hard on the liver if you megadose it without a LOT of water, and that much water can be dangerous in itself--pure water can be toxic if you drink enough.

Re: silver nitrate. The hospitals used to use it. They now use an antibiotic cream and have for many years.

About Mr. Harris: someone recently posted a piece on FR where he said the same stuff, but also said he was a CIA microbiologist, so there's some more grist for your mill. He also suggested prophylactic dosages of tetracycline that were five times the recommended dosage--a great way to kill off your intestinal flora and make sure you get sicker than a dog if the anthrax never shows up. Take what the man says with a largish grain of salt, maybe a couple acidophilus capsules, and not much more than a few drops of colloidal silver :o)

[Eustace]

It appears there's a big difference in the colloidal silver You have and the stuff I make at home with distilled water.Using two silver bars emersed in distilled water with a 30 volt DC power source the electrolosis that takes place leaves colloidal (micron) sized particles of charged silver suspended in the water. What I make is about 10 parts per million silver, almost nil. It sounds like what You have is a very condensed version, a prescription maybe?

As far as Larry goes I haven't heard anything about him since the full page ad in the Washington Times about his book (years ago).

I would be interested in how to get the colloidal silver You talk about. Do you know if it would protect us from viral or bacterial attacks? The reading I have done says that silver was used as an antibiotic up until the 1930's when Rockefeller took over the pharmeceuticals and started using sulfa drugs, again I'm no expert and may be using a wrong phrase. The reading also said soldiers in the Civil War used to swallow silver coins to protect themselves from infections. And the people used to put silver coins in milk so it wouldn't spoil so quickly. They say that, if I remember right bacteria and viruses have to create oxygen chemically and if exposed to silver they are unable to produce oxygen and die. The reading also said that when our cells are attacked they turn themselves insideout to expose the attacker to our bodies protection in this case the silver.

This is recalling the best I can reading from over three years ago.

And as a warning to anyone about the silver coins, when I first started making colloidal silver I used coins, when I had the mixture checked it came out with as much zinc and copper as it did silver. Coins are .900% pure, the bars are .999% pure. The people that tested mine said the rattlesnake poison is made of copper and zinc.

[Poohbah]

Re: colloidal silver vs. virii: probably not. For viral, I use Echinacea (sp?) premixed with goldenseal. The colloidal silver I use comes from Henry's--same with the EG. Also, from what you are describing, colloidal silver only works against anaerobic bacteria.

Re: sulfa drugs. Sulfa has one great advantage over colloidal silver: it's an organic compound. That means it generally is broken down and excreted out of your body a LOT more easily than colloidal silver. It wasn't a conspiracy--sulfa and antibiotics work a LOT better than colloidal silver (if they didn't, you'd be able to buy antibiotics and sulfa from the health food store, and you could only get colloidal silver by prescription :o)

Colloidal silver is my personal "final protective fire" before going to the doctor.

I don't know where you got the image of a cell turning itself inside out as a defense--a cell that did that would be dead (some defense :o)

Re: rattlesnake venom. It's an organic compound, so it definitely has carbon in it. I do not know if it has copper in it or not. But the story sounds fishy. Also, zinc helps prevent things like dandruff.

[Eustace]

What's Henry's?

One of the colloidal silver websites described the cell resorting to a primative state as turning inside out to expose the virus or bacteria. I repeat what they say the best I can to try and get to the truth. Hoping that other people will share what they know about the subject so everyone reading can learn. I'm never afraid to say I don't know everything, but I'm always willing to learn so I can do better next time.

[Eustace]

Henry's law, huh.

[Poohbah]

Henry's is a health food store chain out here in San Diego. Should've realized after my EX-CELL-ENT adventure (I roadtripped home from Washington DC because I couldn't get a flight out of Dulles) that they weren't outside of southern California.