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L’Affaire Coulter
National Review Online ^ | 10/3/01 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 10/03/2001 11:35:13 AM PDT by BamaG

L’Affaire Coulter
Goodbye to all that.

By Jonah Goldberg, NRO Editor
October 3, 2001 2:20 p.m.

 

ear Readers,

As many of you may have heard, we've dropped Ann Coulter's column from NRO. This has sparked varying amounts of protest, support, and, most of all, curiosity from our readers. We owe you an explanation.

Of course, we would explain our decision to Ann, but the reality is that she's called the shots from the get-go. It was Ann who decided to sever her ties with National Review — not the other way around.

This is what happened.

In the wake of her invade-and-Christianize-them column, Coulter wrote a long, rambling rant of a response to her critics that was barely coherent. She's a smart and funny person, but this was Ann at her worst — emoting rather than thinking, and badly needing editing and some self-censorship, or what is commonly referred to as "judgment."

Running this "piece" would have been an embarrassment to Ann, and to NRO. Rich Lowry pointed this out to her in an e-mail (I was returning from my honeymoon). She wrote back an angry response, defending herself from the charge that she hates Muslims and wants to convert them at gunpoint.

But this was not the point. It was NEVER the point. The problem with Ann's first column was its sloppiness of expression and thought. Ann didn't fail as a person — as all her critics on the Left say — she failed as WRITER, which for us is almost as bad.

Rich wrote her another e-mail, engaging her on this point, and asking her — in more diplomatic terms — to approach the whole controversy not as a PR-hungry, free-swinging pundit on Geraldo, but as a careful writer.

No response.

Instead, she apparently proceeded to run around town bad-mouthing NR and its employees. Then she showed up on TV and, in an attempt to ingratiate herself with fellow martyr Bill Maher, said we were "censoring" her.

By this point, it was clear she wasn't interested in continuing the relationship.

What publication on earth would continue a relationship with a writer who would refuse to discuss her work with her editors? What publication would continue to publish a writer who attacked it on TV? What publication would continue to publish a writer who lied about it — on TV and to a Washington Post reporter?

And, finally, what CONSERVATIVE publication would continue to publish a writer who doesn't even know the meaning of the word "censorship"?

So let me be clear: We did not "fire" Ann for what she wrote, even though it was poorly written and sloppy. We ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty.

What's Ann's take on all this? Well, she told the Washington Post yesterday that she loves it, because she's gotten lots of great publicity. That pretty much sums Ann up.

On the Sean Hannity show yesterday, however, apparently embarrassed by her admission to the Post, she actually tried to deny that she has sought publicity in this whole matter. Well, then, Ann, why did you complain of being "censored" on national TV? Why did you brag to the Post about all the PR?

Listening to Ann legalistically dodge around trying to explain all this would have made Bill Clinton blush.

Ann also told the Post that we only paid her $5 a month for her work (would that it were so!). Either this is a deliberate lie, or Ann needs to call her accountant because someone's been skimming her checks.

Many readers have asked, why did we run the original column in which Ann declared we should "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" — if we didn't like it?

Well, to be honest, it was a mistake. It stemmed from the fact this was a supposedly pre-edited syndicated column, coming in when NRO was operating with one phone line and in general chaos. Our bad.

Now as far as Ann's charges go, I must say it's hard to defend against them, because they either constitute publicity-minded name-calling, like calling us "girly-boys" — or they're so much absurd bombast.

For example:

  • Ann — a self-described "constitutional lawyer" — volunteered on Politically Incorrect that our "censoring" of her column was tantamount to "repealing the First Amendment." Apparently, in Ann's mind, she constitutes the thin blonde line between freedom and tyranny, and so any editorial decision she dislikes must be a travesty.
  • She sniffed to the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz that "Every once in awhile they'll [National Review] throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications." I take personal offense to this charge. She's accusing us of betraying a friend for publicity, when in fact it was the other way around.
  • And, lastly, this "Joan of Arc battling the forces of political correctness" act doesn't wash. In the same 20 days in which Ann says — over and over and over again — that NR has succumbed to "PC hysteria," we've run pieces celebrating every PC shibboleth and bogeyman.

Paul Johnson has criticized Islam as an imperial religion. William F. Buckley himself has called, essentially, for a holy war. Rich Lowry wants to bring back the Shah, and I've written that Western Civilization has every right to wave the giant foam "We're Number 1!" finger as high as it wants.

The only difference between what we've run and what Ann considers so bravely iconoclastic on her part, is that we've run articles that accord persuasion higher value than shock value. It's true: Ann is fearless, in person and in her writing. But fearlessness isn't an excuse for crappy writing or crappier behavior.

To be honest, even though there's a lot more that could be said, I have no desire to get any deeper into this because, like with a Fellini movie, the deeper you get, the less sense Ann makes.

We're delighted that FrontPageMagazine has, with remarkable bravery, picked up Ann's column, presumably for only $5 a month. They'll be getting more than what they're paying for, I'm sure.

— Jonah Goldberg



TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; coulter
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To: sinkspur
Actually, NRO will still get read and articles from it will still be posted on FR and commented on by FReepers.

Well thats too bad because they now look like complete fools at the hands of Ann who says Drudge is more prominent than National Review and you know she is always right. Who wants to read foolish news.


201 posted on 10/03/2001 5:00:04 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: winstonchurchill
And that line would be -- the line between paganism and Christ.

Oh please. Give me a break. Coulter's absurd call "invade their countries and Christianize them" was an insult to thinking people everywhere. She was not putting forward a serious suggestion. She was publicly expressing her justifiable anger in a very foolish way. Once she made the error there was only one way to handle it--RETRACTION. Instead she poured salt on the wound and made more of an ass of herself by insulting her employer and tooting her own horn. Good riddance to her--NRO was completely justified to can her.

202 posted on 10/03/2001 5:02:06 PM PDT by beckett
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To: BamaG
I scolded both sides on another thread earlier today, and continue to do so. However, a few further thoughts:

1. I don't think Jonah's story about the original column is as fishy as some are making it out to be. It was not a piece commissioned by NRO; they were automatically posting her syndicated column. A syndicated column would not ordinarily be edited.

2. I wish Jonah had not dug the knife in so often - IMO he had one or two jabs coming to him but he's overdone it - but he doesn't sound so much malicious as fed up. Ms C has acted a bit off the wall about this, and it is entirely possible that the public behavior is the tip of an iceberg.

3. Ann Coulter is a sharp lawyer and her writing is a good blunt instrument. Her best columns are legal briefs with an attitude. She was at her best on Clinton, and on Elian. I have posted her column on Elian and "parents' rights" to several different threads.

But frankly, off the legal beat she doesn't show much sign of having a lot more than a set of attitudes to work with. I think she has been showing signs of running out of material she's good with ever since Clinton left office. She has seemed to try to make up for this lack of ideas by ratcheting up the in-your-face political incorrectness. And there have also been times even before 9-11 when I have thought, "I hope Ann is, you know, all right."

4. The idea that "invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity" meant "send lots of missionaries" is about the lamest weaseling I have ever heard. Three actions strung together in a row, two obviously to be accomplished by armed force, and somehow the reader is supposed to know to insert a band of missionaries with shining faces singing "The Old Rugged Cross" between the second clause and the third? Get real.

I can't take seriously people who say "At least Ann isn't bowing before PC." Sure she is - she has invented a totally bogus and Clintonian exegesis of her column to get off the hook of having advocated forced religious coercion on a mass scale.

5. A lot of the people abusing Jonah on these threads already hated him for not being a pro-drug libertarian, or a Paleo, or a Neo-Confed. If it wasn't this, it would be something else. I hope Ann doesn't go looking to that crowd for friends now. She's better than that, and deserves better.

I think Horowitz, who is old enough to know better, has disgraced himself by his own violations of Reagan's law - he could have welcomed Ann without taking shots at NRO - but I'd rather Ann hang out with his lot than with some of the alternatives.

6. Jonah can write thoughtful, even philosophical columns, but a lot of his NRO stuff, especially, is lazy. He needs to grow up and lose the Gen-X shtick - it may have served a purpose, for him and for NRO, at one time, but it won't do now. The Clinton Era is over - he's a grown-up now, married to the AG-US's chief speechwriter - there's a war on - time for something new.

7. I do think that this is some of the heritage of the Clinton Era. Hating Clinton doesn't mean the decade he defined didn't rub off. We have this whole group of younger conservative writers who have spent most of their professional life in Clinton-Era journalistic slash and burn. They are too young to remember the struggle with Communism, that is, the last time our national life had such high stakes. Time to take stock, kids, and think about where we are and what's happening out there.

That said, Jonah has done a bang-up job getting online some of the best commentary around. I give him only a B for his writing but an A as an editor. Sorry, but I've just learned more about what's going on from David Pryce-Jones and Daniel Pipes and the like than I have from Ann.

203 posted on 10/03/2001 5:02:35 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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To: Southern Federalist
But frankly, off the legal beat she doesn't show much sign of having a lot more than a set of attitudes to work with. I think she has been showing signs of running out of material she's good with ever since Clinton left office. She has seemed to try to make up for this lack of ideas by ratcheting up the in-your-face political incorrectness. And there have also been times even before 9-11 when I have thought, "I hope Ann is, you know, all right."

Lack of ideas indeed. Coulter has been overrated as a conservative pundit. In fact, IMHO, Goldberg is twice the writer she is. Her flaxen hair has flummoxed too many easily flattered conservatives who can't believe a half-way attractive blonde (the claims that she is a great beauty are hilarious) might share their world view.

204 posted on 10/03/2001 5:25:47 PM PDT by beckett
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To: SmartBlonde
7. There are many bright, articulate and attractive Conservative women who do a better job than Ann, IMHO ... Monica Crowley, Hearther Nauert, Laura Ingraham, etc.

True ... but they are not Ann. Ann is a character ... immature and impetuous, but she is a character ... steely Laura Ingraham is precious and valuable ... Ann is blatantly egotistical and lacks good judgment sometimes ... who the Hell cares? ... I, for one, am amused by a brilliant conservative who is needy and mostly defends her (our) positions with arduous persuasion ... most of all, she gives liberals the medicine they deserve, and they do take it seriously

205 posted on 10/03/2001 5:58:44 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: TLBSHOW
David and Ann. All part of MWO's 'round-the-clock coverage in its continuing series, "The Right Fights Itself."

It's a big world out there. I remember the days when the right wasnt big enough to field a baseball team. Now we can fight each other. That is a sign of progress. These are two brilliant baby conservatives duking it out ... no prob ... it is a good thing ... they will both mature and enrich us

206 posted on 10/03/2001 6:07:13 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: beckett
Coulter's absurd call "invade their countries and Christianize them" was an insult to thinking people everywhere.

And Goldberg's idiotic call to invade Africa and civilize them was what? His breath-taking hypocrisy on this issue is Trixie-level.

207 posted on 10/03/2001 6:35:41 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: BamaG
Ann Coulter=Skeleton bony not good looking caffeine girl but she has a right to write what she wants! I like that she is not PC!
208 posted on 10/03/2001 6:41:22 PM PDT by guss
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To: BamaG
Yes, I support what Ann Coulter writes and says. I respect she is pro-American even if she doesn't look that great. A skinny gal needing a hamburger and new hair.
209 posted on 10/03/2001 6:46:19 PM PDT by grego
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To: beckett
You are funny because Ann is a FReeper and Horowitz will be teaching freepers how to stop the left. I say good bye to National Crap. Sorry Ann stays and so does David Horowitz.
210 posted on 10/03/2001 6:50:38 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: NittanyLion
"I agree with you - Coulter seems to be acting very odd lately. I understand that this is an emotional time for all, and hopefully she'll regain her senses soon."

Well, maybe it's, uh, you know, that time of the month? (I grew up with a sister, ya know)

211 posted on 10/03/2001 6:55:56 PM PDT by A2J
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To: Urbane_Guerilla Ann Coulter Barbara Olson Osama's-Head-In-A-Jar-By-The-Door
Passion, indeed.

Goldberg as usual too prissy by half. Recall Biden to Ritter, "Now, I don't want to sound flip here--" Of course you don't, Joe Combover.

The extant piece begins as in the days of Dan Ackroyd, "Jane, insolent slut--"

I have Ann Coulter's The Case Against Bill Clinton here on the shelf, all marked up with highlighter and expletives, and recall clearly that hers was the rare, clear voice (remember Grace Slick's phantom mother saying), "You cannot do that thing."

And my copy of National Review on the table, today I had the moment to get to its FREAKING POSTAGE-STAMP-SIZED COUGH about the death of Barbara Olson.

If I/we had not JUST renewed National Review it would not have been renewed--it's too tedious, relieved only by the occasional scuffed diamond of William F. Buckley, and the rest is OBVIOUS to anyone with a mind.

Now, Barbara Olson (her Hell to Pay is here, too, also all marked up) NAILED as did no one else our future Stephen King NIGHTMARE Hitlery for her sealed Wellesley thesis that paean to Saul Alinsky radical counseling tell any lie for power--and we've ordered her Final Days and it's not that great a leap to think Hitlery didn't arrange with her "American Museum Council" donors to do Barbara just as a favor.

David Horowitz has kicked the sleeping elephant and tried to instill the Art of War (which Democrats=Communists know to the bone).

That he offers a forum for the passionate (albeit offensive to button-down minds) Ann Coulter suits me.

As for Dow Corning silicone breast implants for the too-thin Ann Coulter, I can neither confirm nor deny that report, but then, that's the policy, and we're sticking to it.

I've heard the story of Jonah's mother "Trixie" or something, and Free Republic, and it isn't pretty < rimshot >.

212 posted on 10/03/2001 6:58:53 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: SmartBlonde
Thank you, Smartblonde. Ann has become quite shrill as of late, and if she were a democrat, we'd hear no end of namecalling (of Ann) here on this board. Yeah, she's funny, sometimes.

The blonde I-look-like-I-just-got-out-of-bed look is one of the most unprofessional "do's" on ANY woman commentator on television today.

I miss Barbara Olsen. Bright, witty, charming and always a lady.

213 posted on 10/03/2001 7:05:59 PM PDT by joathome
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To: TLBSHOW
and the left hopes she goes away too

Hardly -- leftists are praying to their dashboard Plastic Marxes that the right gets publicly tagged by her drama-queen tantrum.

214 posted on 10/03/2001 7:07:55 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Roscoe
Here in California the LP once ran a whore for Lieutenant Governor.

How embarassing -- copying the shopworn tactics of the two major parties like that.

215 posted on 10/03/2001 7:10:03 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Justin Raimondo
What a nice twofer for you inJustin--you get to slam a "Goldberg" and a "Horowitz" with one post.
216 posted on 10/03/2001 7:10:24 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Southern Federalist
I tend to also take somewhat of a centrist view here. Ann shouldn't have been bounced. They should've just let it go there at National Review. When I first read the article, I thought it was over the line. The last paragraph will cause us some trouble overseas. This whole thing is crazy. It would've blown over if everyone had just let it go.
218 posted on 10/03/2001 7:17:03 PM PDT by TKEman
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