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To: Theresa
But I never said it was only good intentions. I said Jesus death on the cross saves us. I said it several times too. The sin of Adam closed the gates of heaven to all men. When Jesus died on the cross he was the perfect sacrifice for our sins and his death opened the gates of heaven.

Point of order...

The only universal thing Jesus's death brought about was the end of temple sacrifices as the covering for sin. Jesus' own sacrifice paid for those sins, yet the sinner still needs to ask for this covering of Christ's blood to escape judgment.

The original Passover in Exodus 12, the temple sacrifices, and Christ's execution are all specific to the individual asking for "passover" of the wrath of God. There is nothing universal about Christ's salvation anymore than "good" Egyptian households being spared the plague of the firstborn in Exodus. Only those households with lamb's blood on the lintels were spared (specific request). The same is for Christ's blood on your spiritual "lintels."

It is imperative that you understand this. The Bible states that no one is good. It also states that anyone attempting to bring about his salvation by trying to impress God with good works, is only making the problem worse - they are insulting God. So, the entire notion of a "good" Moslem, "good" Hindu, "good" Mormon, or even a "good" Christian is ludicrous. Good works are a thank-you note for Christ's salvation - not the cover charge for the entrance into Heaven.

98 posted on 09/30/2001 1:04:54 AM PDT by Orion
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To: Orion
That is the gospel. How much clearer can God be? The wages of sin are death. We cannot earn our way to God. You must repent of your sins, and accept your forgiveness through faith in Christ and live for him. That is the only way. There are no other ways. If this doesn't happen, you will die in your sins. Jesus said that very simply, clearly, and his word is true. There are no ten or fifteen ways to be judged by God. He gives you one way, and one way only. And, praise His Holy name he has offered us this precious, precious gift of forgiveness so we can be one with Him. We are totally unworthy and didn't deserve it.
99 posted on 09/30/2001 1:16:55 AM PDT by maranatha
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To: Orion and Theresa
I forgot. The scriptures of where the soul lives until joined with the body if unsaved are Lk:16-19-31; 2 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 20:11-15; Isa. 14:9. The soul is immortal, it never dies whether we are believers or unbelievers. It is almost 3:30 and I'm having a hard time getting all the words down right. I'm going to have to quit now.

Theresa, I believe you have a heart for God and long to be what He wants you to be and to live eternally with Him, but you have been taught some things that are not taught by God. I hope you will study His word about salvation because it is very important you have a clear understanding of this and that you know for certain for your own sake and for your friends and loved ones.

102 posted on 09/30/2001 1:33:28 AM PDT by maranatha
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