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To: parsifal
He didn't say, "No man comes to the Father unless he does a lot of good things in his life."

Then how do you make any sense of the Last Judgment, where Jesus sends the people who did good works to heaven, and the people who failed to do good works to hell?

68 posted on 09/29/2001 11:27:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Then how do you make any sense of the Last Judgment, where Jesus sends the people who did good works to heaven, and the people who failed to do good works to hell?

If you read Rev 20, you will find that the Great White Throne judgment is nothing more than a condemnation. The whole point of the entire Bible is that NO ONE makes it to Heaven on works. They only make it on the salvation of Jesus Christ. Not even Hillary Clinton or Anita Hill is perfect enough to withstand the GWT. Not me. Not you.

The ONLY person who lived a sinless life was born in an animal feeding trough because his step-father had to pay his taxes, and was executed by the Roman army for a crime he did not commit. He demonstrated the sinless life because he was God. That same man will sit on that white throne and judge all others that did not call His name to be saved.

93 posted on 09/30/2001 12:42:25 AM PDT by Orion
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Then how do you make any sense of the Last Judgment, where Jesus sends the people who did good works to heaven, and the people who failed to do good works to hell?"

I don' think in Christian Ideology there is any taboo against good works. The point is that "good works" or acts do not "automatically" get you into heaven the same way you become an Eagle Scout or 32nd degree Mason. Christians believe in the personal intercession of Jesus.

Some the believe the intercession is very rigid and formulaic. You must believe in Jesus or you go to hell even if you never heard of Jesus. I don't think that view makes much sense. It may be right for all I know, but to me it don't make much sense.

Other believe the personal intercession is more of a subjective judgment thing. What are you in your heart. Sheep or goat. Either way, though, the good works, while not frowned upon, do not work outside some form of intercession.

119 posted on 09/30/2001 9:35:27 AM PDT by parsifal
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