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To: getoffmylawn
I point out that you're playing semantic games, and you reply by doing it again?

Your facile conflation of "peace" and "pacifism" in an attempt to cloud the fact that they are two separate things is disingenuous, at best. Who objects to peace?

Rather, the objection is to pacifism as a moral doctrine, particularly as practiced by those who rely on others to defend their own moral values, while simultaneously doing nothing to defend the freedoms and values of those others. If you fail to defend the freedoms of your neighbor against aggression, what right do you have to expect your neighbor to defend your right to pacifism?

Do you really think pacifism will cause the bin Ladens of the world to see the folly of their ways? Do you think pacifism would have stopped the Nazis? How long do you think Gandhi would have lasted had the Nazis been in charge of the Indian subcontinent?
40 posted on 09/29/2001 3:14:15 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
Who objects to peace?

I suppose people that equate peace with terrorism do.

44 posted on 09/29/2001 3:22:36 PM PDT by getoffmylawn
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To: general_re
Do you really think pacifism will cause the bin Ladens of the world to see the folly of their ways? Do you think pacifism would have stopped the Nazis?

Bingo!! There are about six million reasons that pacifism doesn't work.

Scotty

50 posted on 09/29/2001 3:35:37 PM PDT by Scotty
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