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Coincidence? Islamic Calendar Depicts Civilian Jet Hitting Manhattan for September
NewsMax ^ | 27 September 2001

Posted on 09/27/2001 11:42:45 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Coincidence?
Islamic Calendar Depicts Civilian Jet Hitting Manhattan for September

Report: Calendar Showed Plane Crashing Near Manhattan

NewsMax Wires

Thursday, Sept. 27, 2001

A calendar (see picture below) which was printed in Egypt and shows a crashing passenger plane with Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop -- and which was printed in May, a full three months before the September 11 Terrorist Attacks on America -- has caused an uproar in the Dutch town of Almere, Netherlands de Telegraaf newspaper reported yesterday.

The calendar was distributed at an Islamic school long before the World Trade Center attacks. Mayor Hans Ouwerkerk, who was alerted to the calendar's existence in the local islamic school in the town of Almere, immediately notified the Dutch internal security service (BVD) about the strange coincidence. The BVD is reportedly investigating the matter.

"I am supported by Allah, to die for Allah" was quoted on the calendar, the same words reportedly used by an Egypt-Air pilot who allegedly crashed a jet in November of 1999.

The Almere town council has "urgently advised" the management of the Islamic School Foundation to "cooperate with the Dutch authorities and help determine the calender's origin."

Deputy mayor Henk Smeeman said the distribution of such controversial islamic-extremist fundamentalist propaganda material "cannot be tolerated in Almere. The town council is a strong supporter of maintaining good intercultural relationships with one another," he said. On the calendar's other illustrations, a stone-throwing Palestinian demonstrator is shown in front of the Al-Aksa mosque in Jerusalem,; others feature an Egyptian military assault during the six-day war against Israel, and another picture shows a futuristic image of a Palestinian "freeing" of Jerusalem.

The head of the Islamic school -- Mrs Dekker -- alleged had a large number of calenders in her possession from end May to the start of June, well-informed sources informed De Telegraaf. When confronted with the calender images, she responded in a shocked, startled manner and said "how did you get this" and then shrouded herself in silence when further questioned by journalists.

De Telegraaf also reported today that Dutch authorities abruptly closed the major traffic arteries into Rotterdam and Amsterdam through four river tunnels -- in immediate response to a highly detailed letter to the Dutch news agency ANP which described the exact times, (8:10am); the colour and type of vehicles which would have been used in a closely-timed wave of suicide attacks at the hight of rush hour at two of the world's busiest harbour cities.

Dutch police arrested a large number of individuals who had been identified by the anonymous tipster, who also warned that a great many other terrorist attacks would be carried out worldwide.If these riverine tunnels had collapsed, this would have meant the immediate closure of these busy international harbours and seriously disrupted international trade.


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Jet hitting lower Manhattan

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Upon further review of the calendar picture in post #56, it shows the aircraft coming toward the front which may not have been clear in the first posting. The fireball trails the aircraft making it appear to have gone through one of the buildings in the background. BUT, the fireball in the reflection off the water shows it to be just at the rear of the plane. But is that the relection of the intact World Trade Towers off the water?

The presumption is that the aircraft was sabotaged or suffered a major mechanical failure and not a suicidal pilot as many believe. "I am supported by Allah, to die for Allah," is what the pilot was reported to say.

There is a quirk in that the Egyptian flight crashed outside of Nantucket and not near the Statue of Liberty as the picture shows.

Strange coincidence nonetheless if it is a coincidence.

81 posted on 09/27/2001 4:47:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: the_Watchman
What is the picture on the page for October?!?

Very good question...the same thought occured to me.

82 posted on 09/27/2001 4:51:22 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Anonymous2
yup, islam is about peace and love. what a crock. stop islam because they want to stop everyone else! NOW, LET'S ROLL!!!

I'm gonna tell Illbay you said that and boy is he gonna be mad! ;-)

83 posted on 09/27/2001 4:54:15 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: all
Islamic has gone to far this calander is in bad taste first of all second of all this is encouraging killing of innocent civilans in the name of Alloh which by the way is Satan.The ten commandments say thall shall not kill and this people break this on a daily basis this people are sad and there giving relgion a bad name why don't they finally just admit that there all satan worshipers and they are destined not to go to heaven ever.This people are sick and what do they have for the next month this could get intresting?
84 posted on 09/27/2001 5:02:20 PM PDT by Demscheat
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To: Ispy4u
The initial attack during the war with Israel. I know, I know, they had their ass handed to them by the Israelis but to the Egyptians it is an extremely celebrated event.

You can see literally hundreds of renditions of this event throughout the Egyptian government,s (especially the military's) buildings.

With hot air balloons?

85 posted on 09/27/2001 5:38:30 PM PDT by abner
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To: Ispy4u

It is certainly not the state flag, but probably the flag of the army of the Republic of Egypt (state flag has no red/white/black shield on the eagle). Note that it is not exactly the same. No crossed swords. Eagle is facing left above and right with the balloons. The shield colors are reversed. Perhaps the balloon picture is reversed.

86 posted on 09/27/2001 6:37:41 PM PDT by chinche
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To: abner
I'm concerned. I am going to report this.

Good idea. It would be helpful to know if in addition to crop dusters the terrorists were checking out hot air ballons.

Ballons would provide an ideal platform for distributing biological or chemical agents. In addition, they would provide an air burst capability for the suitcase nukes that bin Laden reportedly has in his possession.

Even if there is no direct connection related to this calendar, the air ballon threat should be considered by the authorities and just as importantly by air ballon enthusiasts. I am certain there is a "U.S. Association of People Who Air Ballon" or the equivalent who should get the word out to their members to be on the look out for potential terrorists. I base this on the confirmed reports of their interest in crop dusters.

Consider the effectiveness of a ballon to bypass the conventional security measures at a nuclear power plant or any other potential target. At night it would be difficult to detect and would not show up on radar. Low tech and deadly. Like a box cutter.

87 posted on 09/27/2001 6:38:05 PM PDT by honway
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To: abner
THIS IS IT

http://wwwijzer.nl/NieuwsArchief/artikel.pl?id=204306&pagina=0&query=kalender%20Ouwerkerk%20BVD&datumsort=&bron=alles

BVD onderzoekt herkomst kalender

27 sep 2001

AMSTERDAM - De Binnenlandse Veiligheidsdienst stelt een diepgaand onderzoek in naar de herkomst van de omstreden kalender, die eind mei in Almere is opgedoken. Burgemeester H. Ouwerkerk heeft de BVD en de politie van Almere op de hoogte gebracht van de in Flevoland circulerende kalender, waarover gisteren door De Telegraaf werd bericht.

Woordvoerder Vincent van Steen zei woensdag dat de BVD "de zaak zeer hoog opneemt".

Volgens de BVD moet de afbeelding van het neerstortende vliegtuig bij de wolkenkrabbers en het Vrijheidsbeeld van New York in verband worden gebracht met een toestel van Egypt Air dat op 31 oktober 1999 bij het eiland Nantuckey in de Atlantische Oceaan is gestort.

De spreuk bij de afbeelding zou overeenkomen met de laatste woorden van de co-piloot, die het toestel volgens Amerikaanse luchtvaartautoriteiten door een zelfmoord-aktie liet neerstorten. Arabische bronnen verdenken de Amerikaanse luchtmacht ervan dat het het toestel heeft neergeschoten.

In Almere is in allerijl een recherche-onderzoek gestart. "We zijn geschrokken van de afbeelding in de media. Pas als diepgaand onderzoek is afgerond, zal er helderheid zijn", aldus politie en gemeente gisteren in een reactie.

Dreigtelefoontjes

Het bestuur van de Stichting Islamitische School in Almere distantieert zich van berichten als zou de kalender op en rond de school hebben gecirculeerd. De school kreeg woensdag diverse dreigtelefoontjes. "Het getoonde beeld op de kalender heeft betrekking op het Egyptische vliegtuig dat door de Amerikaanse luchtmacht in de buurt van New York was neergehaald. De tekst boven dit beeld geeft de laatste woorden van de piloot weer. De betekenis daarvan is: heb vertrouwen in Allah", aldus de school in een verklaring.

Een woordvoerder van de gemeente Almere zegt: "We bepleiten dat de school zo open mogelijk is, zodat onze verhouding met de islamieten niet verstoord raakt. Dat is ons veel waard."

In de Tweede Kamer werd gisteren geschokt gereageerd op de omstreden kalender.

"Verschrikkelijk", zegt VVD-Kamerlid Cherribi. De liberaal wil dat Interpol en de Amerikaanse FBI op de hoogte worden gesteld over de makers van de kalender. "De mensen die dit hebben verspreid moeten gepakt worden. Die kalender is een harteloze vorm van propaganda."

"Verbijsterend en afschuwelijk", zegt een geschokt CDA-Kamerlid Verhagen. "Dit is natuurlijk absoluut niet wat wij verstaan onder het overdragen van normen en waarden bij integratie."

Volgens Cherribi is de kalender een regelrechte aanval op de integratie van de moslims. "Dit zijn de vijanden van de moslims. Ze gebruiken een heel scherp beeld om de emoties te veroorzaken", aldus de VVD'er.

De gemeentewoordvoerder weet niet hoeveel kalenders er circuleren op de school en of ze daadwerkelijk in mei werden verspreid. De gemeente heeft Al-Iman verzocht om aangifte te doen bij de politie.

© 1996-2001 Dagblad De Telegraaf. Alle rechten voorbehouden. e-mail: redactie@telegraaf.nl zoekresultaten volgend artikel

89 posted on 09/27/2001 7:05:08 PM PDT by nm_james
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To: abner, Ispy4u
From a historical stand point, I do not recall the Egyptians using helicopters in the Six Day War with Israel. The most effective weapon was the wire guided anti-tank rocket carried by the infantry in a small suitcase.
90 posted on 09/27/2001 7:08:50 PM PDT by honway
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To: abner, all
Are blimps still used to cover large stadium events? Something tells me it would be easier to hijack a blimp than a 767.
91 posted on 09/27/2001 7:13:39 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
I read that book too. Wonder if Thomas Harris gets a creepy feeling at having written it.
92 posted on 09/27/2001 7:29:03 PM PDT by ikanakattara
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To: honway
Good idea. It would be helpful to know if in addition to crop dusters the terrorists were checking out hot air ballons.

Ballons would provide an ideal platform for distributing biological or chemical agents. In addition, they would provide an air burst capability for the suitcase nukes that bin Laden reportedly has in his possession.

Even if there is no direct connection related to this calendar, the air ballon threat should be considered by the authorities and just as importantly by air ballon enthusiasts. I am certain there is a "U.S. Association of People Who Air Ballon" or the equivalent who should get the word out to their members to be on the look out for potential terrorists. I base this on the confirmed reports of their interest in crop dusters.

Consider the effectiveness of a ballon to bypass the conventional security measures at a nuclear power plant or any other potential target. At night it would be difficult to detect and would not show up on radar. Low tech and deadly. Like a box cutter.

Actually, a balloon wouldn't be a good vehicle for any kind of weapon. A balloon has no steering, they are at the mercy of the winds.
Balloons as a rule do not fly at night, its tough to land when your only instrument is eyesight. You generally only see balloons in the early morning or 2 to 3 hours before sunset. During the day, thermals can be incredibly dangerous to balloons.
As far as breaching normal security, balloonists know other balloonists. I can tell you that mid-eastern balloonists are extremely scarce. In the heightened alert state we are in now, if someone doesn't know who you are, I bet they wouldn't get off the ground.

Ok, so that pretty much rules out the balloons themselves as a weapon. I would be concerned with what they could do in the New Mexican desert. With a crowd of about 250,000 people a day it could be devastating.

93 posted on 09/27/2001 7:33:14 PM PDT by abner
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To: honway
From a historical stand point, I do not recall the Egyptians using helicopters in the Six Day War with Israel. The most effective weapon was the wire guided anti-tank rocket carried by the infantry in a small suitcase.

Balloons didn't look like in the picture when the 6 day war happened.

94 posted on 09/27/2001 7:35:41 PM PDT by abner
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Before the end of the first day of fighting, the air forces of the participating Arab states had been destroyed, thereby determining the fate of the entire war. Israeli armored forces could then fight the battle under “clear skies”, and air force pilots were free to provide support to IDF ground forces in all the sectors, the breakthrough and transportation axes without leaving the rear of the State of Israel in danger of air attack. Israel Air Force losses in the fateful day of the battle were a total of 20 aircraft. Twelve pilots were killed, five were wounded and four captured.

The Six Day War started June 5, 1967. I doesn't sound like the kind of war that justifies highlighting helicopters on a calendar since they survived less than 24 hours, it seems.

95 posted on 09/27/2001 7:39:44 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Are blimps still used to cover large stadium events? Something tells me it would be easier to hijack a blimp than a 767.

Blimps are all grounded until further notice.

96 posted on 09/27/2001 7:40:45 PM PDT by abner
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To: swampfx
bump
97 posted on 09/27/2001 7:45:54 PM PDT by honway
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To: abner
its tough to land when your only instrument is eyesight.

Very true. But none of the hijacked airliners landed.If your mission is to distribute a bio agent over a large city, accuracy is not required. If the winds are out of the north, you launch due north of town. It sounds as though you know a great deal more about the subject and ballonists than I do, but I do think it would be wise for the ballonist community to be aware of the depiction on the calendar, especially if the month with the ballons is not June, the month of the Six Day War.

98 posted on 09/27/2001 7:59:07 PM PDT by honway
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To: abner
Balloon I know. It has been a long day and it is time to quit. Thanks for your tolerance of my spelling deficiency.
99 posted on 09/27/2001 8:03:59 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Depending on wind direction and speed, you may not even get off the ground.
I've been ballooning since 1991.

I am going to notify several parties and try not to panic anyone. ;) I'm sure their security is going to be exceptionally tight this year.

I certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for Albuquerque getting cancelled.

100 posted on 09/27/2001 8:06:04 PM PDT by abner
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